I have added him, I saw his damage capacity, is really hard!
Nice chart and thanks for calculations. I think one hero that might be worth including is Master Lepus. 410% hit with 795 attack is pretty significant
OMG I forgot that rabbit hahah ok you are making me work on sunday
Good job
Wth lol totally thought this was kerri for a minute
Well played
Good times that @Kerridoc helped us a lot. Great friend
The only sad thing about this chart is red has one pure sniper in Marjana and sheās middle of the pack. We need a hard sniper, especially with Green now dominating tank defense position.
Couple of things;
1 - how are you calculating the ātotal damageā component? Asking because I think there is an error in it. Running the maths on Jabberwock (Using the formula set out in the Damage Calculation Thread), I get a total damage per strike of 455.26 against an average 5* defenderā¦ Multiplied by 2x and adding the DoT gets a total of 1144.52 damage which is a far-cry from the 4458 you have listedā¦
2 - Jabberwock doesnāt do 600% damage. He does 2x strikes for 300% damage. Because of how the damage Calculation works a ā b
3 - Master Lepus should also be on this list. The guy hits for 410% damage to the target (plus splash to nearby) & has a bigger attack stat than pretty well everyone on the list.
Edit
Ran the numbers on all the snipers using their REAL damage dealt to an average defence hero of the same star rating:
Hero | Strike % | Damage (Target) | DoT | Total |
---|---|---|---|---|
Lianna (+CB) | 512 | 974.47 | 974.47 | |
Gefjon | 500 | 951.70 | 951.70 | |
Joon (Costume) | 488 | 940.82 | 940.82 | |
Lianna | 512 | 913.07 | 913.07 | |
Lianna (Costume) | 482 | 910.89 | 910.89 | |
Joon (+CB) | 468 | 895.29 | 895.29 | |
Sartana (Costume) | 532 | 884.04 | 884.04 | |
Joon | 468 | 838.86 | 838.86 | |
Magni (+CB) | 420 | 835.34 | 835.34 | |
Alasie | 462 | 809.55 | 809.55 | |
Poseidon | 450 | 789.87 | 789.87 | |
Kingston | 445 | 783.69 | 783.69 | |
Magni | 420 | 782.92 | 782.92 | |
Gregorion | 455 | 778.59 | 778.59 | |
King Arthur | 468 | 777.47 | 777.47 | |
Sartana (+CB) | 452 | 770.24 | 294 | 1064.24 |
Master Lepus | 410 | 760.44 | 760.44 | |
Alice | 430 | 737.47 | 737.47 | |
Sartana | 452 | 722.07 | 294 | 1016.07 |
Magni (Costume) | 420 | 717.02 | 717.02 | |
Domitia (+CB) | 410 | 716.86 | 716.86 | |
Marjana | 458 | 699.52 | 300 | 999.52 |
Seshat | 400 | 692.13 | 692.13 | |
Domitia (Costume) | 390 | 690.35 | 324 | 1014.35 |
Domitia | 410 | 671.47 | 671.47 |
You can see the order is SIMILAR but not quite the sameā¦ Mainly because of how Damage is actually calculated in the game. Itās not a straight up linear calculation but is really an exponential relationship between the Attack Power & the Defence Stats of the enemy.
Note: for this I havenāt taken into account the silent āstat boostā that defending heroes haveā¦ So the damage will be a touch lower (e.g. Lianna with costume bonus goes from 974.47 damage to 761.85 damage)
Edit 2:
Adding in the āSpecial Casesā
Hero | Strike % | Damage (Target) | DoT | Total |
---|---|---|---|---|
Fenrir | 600 | 1239.2 | 1239.2 | |
Azlar Costume | 410 | 794.2 | 430 | 1224.2 |
Jabberwock | 300 | 455.26 | 234 | 1144.52 |
Alfrike | 200 | 223.97 | 1119.85 | |
Sumle (Vs. 4*) | 515 | 1039.47 | 1039.47 | |
Sumle (Vs. 5*) | 515 | 889.76 | 889.76 | |
Kageburado | 450 | 840.38 | 840.38 |
Mine is a simply damage calculating without considerating the deffense factors, just the amount of attack of each specialā¦ but I donāt know then about the defense that modifies those numbersā¦ I really dont have that infoā¦ so its only a look to the attack * % of special damages, and then multiplied by their attacka talent paths at 30, andā¦ adding the mana troop at level 30
Why wouldnāt you add 4* heroes to the list? Iād be interested to see how my Triton+19 att does.
Because I try to put the most powerful onesā¦ If I put all the heroesā¦ there is a lot of work to do haha
Great list @Jamir. Line: mcbeard79 is like to collaborate and add a few columns for w/Tarlak, Ranvir, Wu, Sexy Rigard, etcā¦
Great work!
whats is mean DOT ?
i dont understand DoT
Damage Over Time (the residual damages like azlar burnig, or Proteus poisoning)
Thank you @Jamir for creating a quick comparison list of snipers and @Guvnor for additional information. Some people are gifted with a love of math and accuracy while others are gifted with the ability to create a broad brushstroke picture. This forum is a wonderful place where these differing talents benefit the many. IDIC
ow ok thanks a lotā¦now i got it
Ahh Okā¦ May be a little misleading to call it ādamageā thenā¦ Itās more āattack powerā than anything.
As I said, the damage calculation is (pretty) straight forward & all listed out in the Damage Calculation Thread (linked above too).
But it does change the order of the ābest snipersā a bit from what is in your OP.
Iām still hesitant between magni and king arthur In raising the level and I have tools for one hero my only problem how i benefit from skill magni in Defense Or i use king arthur and make it just damage
Wow, Iām somewhat disappointed in Sartana in costume. Doesnāt even beat out a vanilla Liannaā¦
Iām leaving my Sartana at 4/1 with max costume since I will be using the costume more anyways. Although Sartana w/ Costume bonus deals the most overall damage, that 294 DoT is over freakin 6 turns.
āAttack powerā is then a meaningless concept since in real battle, only the ādamageā that you calculated is meaningful. Therefore the list of ābest hitterā should be ranked by ādamageā that you calculated