My current lineup is, all maxed and in order, Lianna, Marjana, Aegir+8, Posieden, Seshat. So im obviously a fan of fast hitters. I pulled Zim and got her to 3/70 waiting on rings planning on Lianna, Marjana, Aegir+8, Zim, Seshat. Then I pulled Puss. I immediately thought ok, could be a nasty tank if emblemed up. (Btw i havent emblrmed my other 5s cause i have 4s at +18,19, and 20 and want to keep my war bench strong). So Puss being a rogue, i could emblem up, tank him, pair him with Seshat, MN, Poseiden and the Thorn im levelling and i feel like he’d beva viable tank. With evade, the meat shield of 3 blind rodents, and heal over time, i feel would punish bad boards. Which is all you can hope for in passive defence.
So, now i have the rings and am super torn. Do I
A: max Zim, flank her with Aegir and increase his special ability healing??? Ooooorrrrr
B: max Puss, tank him, emblem him defense/health, and cross my fingers?
Im asking because i havent seen a single Puss tank. I actually havent faced him at all. Ive read a lot of posts, watch vids, etc, but im still torn. So please amazing forum community, give me your thoughts. I gave ypu the intended lineups above. WHICH WOULD YOU DO? And why? If sometging completely different, please say so. Thank you in advance for your feedback.
-Waytoosmall(TGO)
Zim makes that better.
Both great choices, but would go with Zim too, a great flank or even left wing when not running Mother. Would be a much harder choice if you have Red Hood, Delilah etc. When those are back in the summon wheel you should already have a new set of rings. Zim is as good/bad tank as Puss too if you need to run a red one imo.
If your current defense is holding around 2500, why worry about it? Choose the one that will help more all around. Zim is great for titans, trials, war, farming, in short everything. I’d level her first then Puss when you have time in the future.
Only reason I would say to level Puss is if you also have Queen of Hearts.
Otherwise you’re looking for a support hero and imo Zim is better at that. Fast cleansers don’t exist outside Zim.
Fast cleanser you say? Costumed Sonya, way cheaper to level. Better yet, Grazul, a very fast healer the resists status ailments to all.
But harder to come by than the Zimkitty that he already has
Ugh, thank you all. Its funny cause i said in alliance chat Ultra, fyi, costumed Sonya is s fast cleanser. I noticed that too. Great feedback everyone. But its not about support heroes. You all play, you all know. Im trying to make a unique viable defense that mskes people hit reroll. I currently reside between 2300 and 2700 cups. Like when i hit the raid chest its always diamond but i drop to platinum before i get back up and fill. You all are obviously knowledgeable, whuch of the lineups would make you hit reroll? Which would you ansolutely not want to face??? If any…
In honesty, the heroes you have aren’t the ones that people will automatically reroll on. And really, there isn’t a defence that exists that will make everyone reroll
Personally I hunt Aegirs tanks. I find them them relatively easy to defeat. Others hunt Guin. Others Kunchen… there’s no perfect tank
Regarding your two options, I think the first is better. I haven’t seen any Puss tanks in platinum so that’s possibly an indication as to him not being the best tank around…
To answer your question about the most fearsome defence you could put together, something like:
Finley → Kingston → Black Knight → Ursena → Drake Fong
Would cause many people to think twice… Especially if emblemed…
Have a look at this thread for some other inspiration of some daunting defences:
Agree to an extent
I still prefer to team graz with a cleanser(preferably zim)
With RnG boards it’s not uncommon(at least for me) for the defenders to cast ailments in between grazul charges and her effect only lasts 2 turns so when thinning a board it can be a long stretch between her specials
Costume sonya is good but if you can go a 5* over a 4* it’s typically the better way to go and i dont see sonya being a viable option in defense
That being said, i wish i had costumed sonya but i dont think she would replace the amount i use zim
Zim also has the elemental link heals that stack with any other heals. Her & aegir synergy is pretty awesome in offense. 2 healers. 1 cleanser. 1 defense buffer. Neither at slow mana; not common to find that in the 5* heroes.
I would love to have puss but i think zim is the overall better choice for versatility
She does well in both mono and 3-2 offenses
And does well in rainbow defenses
Anyways just my rambling 2 cents
Options you mentioned are good; but i just don’t think their direct substitions or replacements
Defense tank wise
Puss > zim for all the reasons in the OP
Minion stacking and durable
If you can run a rainbow defense, it’s typically best as it puts your best troops up front and is easier to synergize across an alliance for wars
At the end of the day until you’re at 30 or more maxed 5s i would put offense first
If you don’t have a hero to help you offensively then go defense OR if your hitting all your marks well in war titans etc and you can improve your AW defense for you and your teammates then not a bad idea to do so
Should mention jf is comin next month and may add more to your decision
Didnt want to split this into 2 posts even though they respond to 2 different posts
@WayTooSmall hope any of that jumbled crap helps lol
It would be interesting if you pulled Delilah in February’s Atlantis portal to add to your minion horde. As a Zim owner myself, I’ll admit that Zim isn’t the sexy choice here but it’s the best one.
As Nena & Kim Wilde would say, Zimkitha > Puss → Anyplace Anywhere Anytime
@Guvnor I am assuming you aren’t including costumed Sonya for fast cleansers?
No I hadn’t
a) currently you can’t get her as costumes are in hiatus
b) Zim is in the stable. Sonya costume is not summoned at this point.
@Guvnor Okay. Thank you for the clarification.
Try Finley ursena black knight zeline and drake fong high emblemed… they punished my blue mono team lol 46xx team. Brutal!
Finley needs mono red with mitsuko anchoring
Wow, highly intelligt, well thought out responses. Thank you all. And yes i could decipher the jumble lol. The fact you dont see emblemed boots means either he isnt good, no one has tried, or not many pulled. Still a bit torn. Ugh.
I have a Zim maxed almost entirely and PnB will be next. Zim is great everywhere, PnB needs summoner heroes like QoH, LoL and Seshat to realize his full potential. I view him as an offensive threat and Zim as the total utility hero. I almost always use her since I see GMs and Drakes all day.
Zim is the best choice, no question. She is good for every possible use. Great to have in defense as a cleanse + buff + damage. Great for raiding. Great for any titan except red rares. Great for challenges. Great for use in farming teams. If you max out Zim, you will never look at her as a hero you regretted leveling.
Puss is a one-trick pony. He’s only useful if you also have other summoners in your team, and even then he’s more of a neat trick than an amazing asset. He isn’t bad or useless, but he’s not as useful as Zim.