🧝 Lionstring – 4* Nature / Green from Astral Elves

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New Astral Elf hero is released: Lionstring

This thread is for discussing strategy related to Lionstring, as well as your thoughts on Lionstring.

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Lionstring

Rarity	Element	Class	Mana Speed
Epic	Nature/Green	Wizard	VF Very Fast

Level	Attack	Defense	Health
4/70	684	688	1292
4/75	743	748	1403
4/80	861	867	1627

Origin	Family
Plane of Astral Elves	Astral Elves

Image	Aether Power	Description
	Dodge	At the start of each battle, this Hero gets +20% chance to dodge Special Skills that deal damage for 6 turns. In battles with multiple waves, the effect is refreshed at the beginning of each wave.

Resist: Resist Poison This character has innate resistance against Poison.

Ability: Share Received Damage 20% of damage received by this charater is shared with other allies.

Special Skill: Cloth of Constellations
This Special Skill never misses its targets. Deal 245% damage to the target and minor damage to nearby enemies. The caster steals 50% of any healing applied to the target and nearby enemies in 2 turns. The caster and nearby allies get +45% chance to dodge Special Skills that deal damage for 2 turns.

All-in-one still under construction. Card image to be added when available.

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Astral Elf Family Bonus

Heroes become stronger when teamed with other unique Heroes of the same family.

Astral Elf Family
Bonus for 1 / 2 Heroes:

50% / 70% chance to dispel a random dispellable effect buff from an enemy who deals Special Skilll damage to this character.

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Balance Changes

Apr 2024

@EmpiresPuzzles

Passive Skill changed

• Resist Blind → Resist Poison
• Affects all Astral Elf heroes

All offensive Astral Elves’ Special Skills now always hit their targets

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Changes from Beta

• Attack is increased from 682 to 684.
• Defense is increased from 684 to 688.
• Health is increased from 1275 to 1292.
• Dodge chance is reduced from 50% to 45%.

Beta Information: 🧪 Early Information on Round 2 of Astral Elves Heroes [Part of The Beta Beat v65]

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What do you think of Lionstring ?

This thread is for thoughts and discussion on Lionstring.

Based on preferences Forum members have expressed, please try to stick mainly to Lionstring and not wander off topic too much to other heroes.

Some Popular Questions for Discussion

• Is Lionstring worth summoning for?

• Would you use Lionstring on Defense? Offense? War? Quests/Events? Titans?

• Which heroes on your Roster best pair with Lionstring ?

• What heroes would you take when facing Lionstring as an opponent?

• Would you give Lionstring Wizard Emblems? Which Talent Grid path will you choose?

• What do you think of special?

• What do you think of Lionstring’s character design?

• If you Summoned Lionstring and would like to post your results, please include some thoughts on why you Summoned Lionstring, and whether/how you plan to make use of them.*

*NOTE: Summon Results posted without any commentary/feedback at all should be flagged as Off Topic and removed, based on preferences expressed by the Forum community. Please include some comments about what you think of Lionstring when posting Summon Results. In addition to opinions about Lionstring, you are also encouraged to include how many Summons it took before receiving Lionstring (or how many Summons you’ve done without receiving Lionstring), so other players are presented with realistic experiences of the rarity of Epic Event Hero.

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Avoiding Overspending & Heartache

More Insights & Reading

I highly recommend reading these three threads for more information and context on summoning odds:

• How much should I spend?- HotM cost, and odds, analysis

• [WARNING] A Summons Experience - Chasing Guardian Panther - A Warning for Chasing Heroes

• What exactly is a Gacha? (Read before posting things about "unfair pulls")

If you’ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later.

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Wondering About Your Personal Situation?

Feel free to discuss your team and roster here, and ask for advice from other Forum members.

If you’d like more extensive advice on sorting out your particular roster, I recommend creating a new thread in Gameplay Help & Tactics, and posting screenshots of your hero roster, along with your questions.

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Related Threads You May Be Interested In

• 🧪 Early Information on Round 2 of Astral Elves Heroes [Part of The Beta Beat v65]

[PlayForFun]

Feedback Poll - Lionstring (post release)

Is Lionstring worth Summoning For?

• Yes, absolutely
• Only if you’re P2P
• Yes, but only when featured.
• Not really
• Not at all

How many copies of Lionstring would be useful to keep & Level?

Note - this is roster space dependent & isn’t the same for everyone!

• Zero
• Just one
• 2
• 3
• All of them

What do you think Lionstring’s Primary Purpose is?

• Damage Dealer (Immediate)
• Healing Stealer
• Dodge Buffer

What do you think of Lionstring compared to other Heroes?

• Over Powered (OP)
• Little stronger than Most
• On Par with Most
• Little Weaker than Most
• Completely Broken (Under Powered)

How does Lionstring’s Special Skill and Intended Purpose match his Base Stats?

Note this means Lionstring’s Class, Attack, Defence & HP Stat

• Perfectly
• Better than Most
• On Par with Most
• Worse than Most
• Terribly

Is Lionstring worth giving Wizard Emblems to?

• Yes absolutely
• Yes, but only if you don’t have a 5* Option
• Yes, but only if you’re focusing on 4* Heroes/ Events
• Hmmmm, not sure yet
• No, I don’t think so.
• No… Not at all.

In Defence, where do you think Lionstring is best used?

Note, as a 4* hero, please consider with this question up-and-coming players not just end-game players (where 5* heroes are a luxury not a given).

• Left Wing
• Left Flank
• Tank
• Right Flank
• Right Wing
• Not on defence at all.

How do you think Lionstring is best used?

• PvP Raids/ War attack
• Normal Defence
• War Defence
• Titans
• Farming
• Tournaments
• Event Teams

Choose up to 3 options

What do you think is Lionstring worth Limit Breaking ?

• Yes, but only once
• Yes, twice
• No

If you would emblem Lionstring then which Emblem Path would you select ?

• Sword path
  (Selecting Attack talent nodes when possible)
• Shield path
  (Selecting Health and Shield talent nodes when possible)

What do you think about the artwork ?

• Amazing
• Refreshingly new
• It’s ok
• It could be better
• Very bad

[PlayForFun]

The OP is adjusted with the changes.
Polls are now enabled.

[stdczmiel]

Not so many 4* Very Fast heroes. Dodge, share dmg with others, steal of the healing - seems like a nice tank for tourneys

[TribL]

Got this one with my single pull. Looks decent.

[Nightmare2048]

And Valeria cries in the corner. I mean was crying in the corner for quite some time already, but now she cries even harder.

[Yomagn-tho]

I pulled him, even if he is all I walk away from this portal with, I will be happy.

[Navarre]

Preso anche io alla prima chiamata!..sembra un ottimo carro armato, e super veloce!

[JUST.BALZE]

My only pull. wouldn’t have minded a double 5s pull but i doubt it’ll ever happen

He looks very good

[scbrain]

This guy is the F2P 5* from this portal, like Goldie is in hers/his (?).

Only a 5.7% chance of pulling him in each of my two free draws - about the best one could reasonably hope for.

[PlayForFun]

The OP is now updated with the latest balance update.

[Toni16]

Any experiences of using him in tournaments?

Got him with one of my two pulls.
In my opinion he looks decent.

[NoRecesso]

Next in line to be leveled after finishing Ptolemy

[Muchacho]

I just got him. Green is my second worse color and on the struggle bus. He can clearly work in 4* tournies, but does anyone have experience with him in say normal diamond raiding or perhaps harder PvE content?

[Ruskin505]

@Muchacho

He can clearly work in 4* tournies

I’ve been wondering how well he can actually compete. Let’s start with stats at 4/70, he’s pretty inferior to Caedmon with 2 or 3 costumes.

Hero	Att	Def	HP	Power
Lionstring	684	688	1292	697
Toon.Caedmon	760	742	1344	746
C2.Caedmon	747	730	1322	739

When I think about the Epic Greens I use here’s who comes to mind:
Healer: Mel or Ptolemy depending on what secondary effect I need. May even opt for C.Gaderius.
Minions/Mana buff: Mielikki
EDD: Almur
Defense down: C.Peters (I don’t have him), Buddy (who I don’t use much nowadays), C2.Skittleskull (who I actually use more for superior wizard talent)
Hitters: C2/T.Caedmon
Mana control: Little John, Hansel, Peters
Buff stealing via minions: Villiers
Weak heroes I leveled and haven’t used for quite a while: Orla, Wren, Tettukh

Now let’s look at Lionstring’s kit
1 Never misses: blind and dodge aren’t too common in epic that this isn’t something I’ve felt I needed in Epic too often
2 245% damage to target and minor to nearby. Weak compared to C2.Caedmon 275% to three
3 Steals healing and dodge for 2 turns: This is where his uniqueness comes in. But the two turns worry me. It means I’m holding off on using the special trying to time that short window. Stealing healing isn’t always as great as just doing more damage in the first place
4 Very fast: without mana troops, non legendary very fast heroes always seem to disappoint me (I’ve tried using Jackal a lot in the past)
5 20% of damage received is shared with allies. Good if he’s your strongest hero. Could be helpful if he’s your weakest hero. Could also take out the rest of your team.

So how important is dodging damage to you? Is it worth less stats? No 75% toon resist? Less damage from special?

I was excited when I first saw him, but I’ve slowly been happy I haven’t leveled him.

Now maybe you don’t have T or C2 Caedmon by now. Maybe your greens are so weak as you point out, there’s less competition.

@Muchacho

Green is my second worse color and on the struggle bus

Edit: I’m going to do a 4 star hero removal service/ranking similar to the one I did for 3 stars one day. The premise is going to be that classic heroes set the standard. Does this hero do something they don’t?

[Muchacho]

Thanks, that is a fair comparison. It was all to 4’s, I am hoping he can compete more places for me.
At the 4* level, here is what I have:

Caedmon with all costumes, including toon. They’re all +20 and LB1, toon is LB2

Melendor with all costumes, including toon. They’re all +20 and base, C1, and toon are all LB1.

LB1 +20 heroes:

• Orla
• Wren
• Little John (c1 and c2 maxed, no LB)
• Ptolemy
• Hansel
• Almur (costume maxed)
• Marcel
• Brynhild
• Gobbler (costume maxed)
• Jack O’Hare (costume maxed)

Others:

• Buddy LB1, no emblems (I had just LB1’d him when the Pengi Christmas nerf hit)
• Skittles +20 with C1 snd C2 maxed. Maybe LB1, I love tile dispel
• Peters (costumes maxed). Tried as a D dropper to match speed on titans, scores went down. Rarely used.
• Kashhrek with C1 maxed
• Gadeirus (costume maxed). Tried briefly on titans and other spots, but fell to the wayside.
• Tettukh maxed

Kind of s hodge podge of weirdos with a steep drop off considering I need 4’s still on my main mono green team.

My green 5’s are a short list and if not for SE and FS would be in an even more dire situation.

[Komara81]

Leveled and LB1 without thinking , but not very happy after using him , feels like lost feeders and materials

[Ruskin505]

I think our epic lineups are pretty similar, including who we did and didn’t max. I forget about Marcel since I don’t have him. Seeing that your roster is similar to mine, I wouldn’t be in a rush to level Lionstring. Unless you feel you’re really missing dodge. Could be helpful in a war cleanup I suppose.

[Math-Teacher]

Nice write up.

I’m a fan of your 3* removal service and look forward to the four banger treatment.

[JimmyTreeX]

I did just read all of that, but who would you level next? I was think Villiers (i’ve had him for a long time and just want to level him one day), but I came to check on Lionstring… and now I’m unsure (per usual). I just finished Heimdall, so I wanted to do a four-star before jumping back into a five star.

Thank you