Well, Iâll take one Jean-François thank you; or a couple, if theyâd otherwise go to waste. Iâm outdated too.
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I mean look at the realm bonus on s3 heroes. Itâs like⊠essentially most of what JF does. More damage, even.
I think it would make JF obsolete. Does that mean older heroes can never win battles? No, because this game has a huge luck element with how the boards work. But it does mean itll be way harder to fight against s3 heroes with non-s3 heroes.
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Which season 3 hero do you see replacing the current heroes in meta defenses⊠King - Gm - Ursena - drake - finley and king - gm - guin - ursena - finley? Does Fenrir replace finley? I sure hope so (but he wonât)⊠does Tyr replace gm? Maybe as a wing⊠how about Alf replacing ursena as tank or flank? Tank, maybe (if folks want to spend tabs on a very slow dark⊠and theyâve proved they donât)⊠flank, very doubtful. So if these heroes are arenât outdated already⊠why would they be then? (Thatâs not to say that I like or want the realm bonuses to happen though⊠unsure on those for now, initial thought was I donât like them).
I literally think all of the s3 heroes will replace current heroes, whether thatâs GM or Finley or Ursena with the realm bonuses as they are now. Maybe even some 4 star s3s, with the realm bonus, can replace a hero in a top 100 raid team today and still stay in the top 100.
Iâm not an expert at the game though, so I could very well be wrong.
Then your opinion is very different then mine, as I donât see a single hero that screams out as a better defender then whatâs currently available. But thatâs fine, time will tell, I could certainly see Alf and Heim as tank material and Iâm not saying the heroes are bad obviously⊠just, not as⊠OMG, as being made to be. Anyway, opinions. 
My understanding of the heroes is that theyâre on par with some of the better heroes we have currently. In the same tier as the heroes we have today.
But, they have these additional realm bonuses, which completely breaks the balance.
Now, if they are weaker than the heroes we have today and then also have those realm bonuses to compensate, I can understand that.
But letâs say realm bonuses didnât exist. Do you think these s3 heroes are weaker than current heroes (not a rhetorical question, Iâm genuinely asking)
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Weaker?, No. Different?, yes. The stats are all very strong and very good but specials are what make or break heroes on defense and none of them currently have specials that would replace those in current meta defenses while also taking into account mats (like⊠Boss Wolf for example⊠he has a great special as a defender, but for most folks heâs sitting at 1/1 because itâs not a great special, at that speed, outside of tanking). Is Alfs special more devastating then Ursenas? Maybe⊠is it so much more so that youâd rather use tabs there? Doubtful. Fenrir will get maxed plenty and is solid for sure⊠will folks that have Finley replace him? I canât imagine why they would, Finley has far more upside as a wing defender. Tyr seems cool, but would I be more nervous of his special going off after Ursena or Gms? Absolutely would be more worried about gms. Heim is going to be interesting, just cause of the health boost, thatâs something I havenât played with yet, but to this point, no green has been able to tank consistently⊠and I donât object to having one that can (Heim or Tell). To be clear though, Iâm not calling the heroes weak, I see most heroes as usable and some of these heroes will be fantastic on offense and certainly worth getting, I just donât see anything that will make all current heroes outdated. (Still unsure about my feelings on realms though).
Sorry all, back to topic, Jean in 4 days!!!
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Isnât it so hard to get the bonuses? Even S2 family do not have complete 5*/colorâŠ
I think you only need a single hero to get the realm bonusâŠ
No, they need multiple to get the stat bonus, and with 9 realms, there will be few heroes in each realms. But it seems the non-stat effect do not need multiple.
So it wonât make the current heroes become instantly obsolete.
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Correction. There are two components to the S3 Realm BonusâŠ
Part 1 (what I call the REALM EFFECT) needs only 1 hero from the Realm to be present
Part 2 (What is the family bonus equivalent) needs multiple unique heroes to be present.
Example I will use is the Asgard Realm
Part 1 = Realm Effect = âAll allies gain a moderate amount of mana when an Asgard Hero diesâ
Part 2 = Family Bonus = "Realm members become stronger in the presence of other unique members of the same realm. (Bonus for 2/3 members: +15%/+20% defence)
So Part 1 needs only one hero to be present (currently only Heimdall is in the Asgard Realm). It will affect ALL allies, regardless of the number of Asgard Heroes present (1 or more) & the origin of the other heroes. Same goes for other realms.
Part 2 needs multiple unique Asgard Realm heroes to be present to trigger. At present, there is just Heimdall⊠It is likely that there will be more to be releasedâŠ
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Too late @Guvnor 
I already corrected it before 5 minutes or your post 
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the non-stat ones are IMO the OP ones. The multiple hero effect bonuses arenât that OP.
i mean seriously, higher burn/poison damage than GM and JF, no turn limit, undispellable⊠can you get more OP than that?
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It seems to be gaining outrage in that thread, I probably do not need to ask for nerf and let the others continue with that. 
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We may spend thousands of $, who care. What I share is just the fact I see. When S2 arrived, who would spend gems on S1 portal? I see the same apply to S3, and with the power of those S3 and costume, I may anticipate that next wave of HoTM will have the power of 790, which should be very soon as S3 is committed to release early 2020.
Anyway you are responsible for your $, chase those S1 if you want 
A lot of my alliance teammate still use their gems on S1 portal even though I told them to use it on Atlantis/Challenge/Seasonal portal⊠
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really pathetic. i only have marjana & grazul as red 5 star heros. not sure if this nxt HOTM will be better. btw, anyone know when season 3 releasing since some talk of it slightly above?
All heroes are useful, some more than others, some less. I will be happy to get JF, or any other HOTM. I made it to Global #1 using primarily a blue mono stack of Frida-Grimm-Boril-Triton-Kiril, at 3850 TP, taking down 4500+ teams to get there. With the right synergy and effective team building, all heroes have their place.
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Iâm getting flashbacks to animal farm here.
âAll animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others .â
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Looking fairly powerful in my opinion. Gravemaker dot on a fast timer with a strong defensive buff. I think he can find a place in many teams.
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