Beta Update
Miki has received a rebalancing update in Beta, increasing his attack buff from +110% to +130%, and his stackable attack cap from +160% to +170%.
This is the third time Miki has been rebalanced in Beta.
Iāve updated the top post of this thread accordingly.
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Wow now I want him.
Too bad I donāt have telescopes. Too many ice heroes 
Let us know what you think of him when you feel you have tried him enough to give a objective opinion especially compared to Tarlak Or Ranvir. I have some coins for Atlantis and i dont need a dark hero (Seshat) so i would keep them to try my luck next Atlantis in August. I have no titan specialist and i do have the AMs to get him to the top.
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Iāll play with him more, but my general sense each update has been basically:
Players: Looking pretty solid for Titans, but not so great for Raids and War.
SG: Cool, got it. Based on your feedback, we made him better for Titans.
Players: 
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Well next time tell them he is kinda meh for titans and cool for raids and war. 
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If your mana speed were changed to average and the number of special turns reduced to 3, except Element Link, it would be excellent.
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If you reduce his special skill to 3 turns they could definitely make his mana fast (cabin boy peters). I like most players would prefer that but I donāt see SG going in that direction. I think heād be more in line with a hotm if they keep him the same with average mana or make him tankier. That would actually make me want him. Ascension mats are hard to come by and right now I donāt give Miki scopes over Ariel, Frida, Aegir, Misandra just thinking of the ice heroes released in the past year imo.
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@zephyr1 Is Miki really that solid against titans without multiple mana pots and potions? I get it a lot of us use 2 pots in order to get Wu, Ranvir, or Tarlak charged up right away. However, we can usually keep them going at fast and average speed in that 90 seconds. With slow mana though I could see people going through a lot of minor and mana pots to see significant increases in titan scores. It just seems youāll need to use a lot of resources in order to get the best out of his strength.
Mana speed
Devs appear to be responding to feedback about his special skill speed.
From a very good friend:
Designing a HotM
The evolution of Miki appears to be Wu Kong, Hel, Peters, Proteus, Tarlak, Ranvir
But I would actually argue that Miki is not created for titans but for triple bosses. I hardly ever bring my Proteus to titans because his DOT is low for titans and titans have a huge mana bar. But I bring my Proteus against triple bosses all the time. Proteusā mana speed makes little difference versus triple bosses because I am using mana potions as often as needed. Miki would be an improvement over my Proteus + Wu Kong because Miki 's silence, and other heroes special skills, would never miss. Miki would be strong versus red bosses and neutral versus purple/ yellow bosses.
I would also argue that by leaving Miki 's mana speed at slow, the Devs are explicitly creating him for situations that are not titans so Miki does not replace Ranvir ( fast ) and Tarlak ( average). In this case Miki reminds me of Hansel/ Peters ( fast ), Proteus ( average) and Little John ( slow ).
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Spending gems and then telescopes on hero mostly useful on bosses sounds like a huge waste.
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Titans are king
Okay.
Titan loot tiers
My alliance is still fighting 6* titans after 2 years.
Triple bosses guard most my 4* ascension items and emblems.
What is your roster
I am leveling up my Little John ( slow mana, debuff all enemies), but for other players it is less helpful:
So I would personally level Miki, but for players with Hel, Tarlak and Ranvir, they very likely have better options.
Versatility, Flexibility, Utility
I would love if costumes made every hero useful in multiple situations, but that decision is up to the design team.
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Iām not saying itās not important to be able to kill bosses. But you donāt need any HOTM to do that. Sure Miki will be useful in some scenarios, but players with limited budget should focus on all-rounders instead of niche heroes IMHO.
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What are they doing to this hero? 
Thereās like 1 week and a day before heās released.
Heās certainly outclassing Tarlak now for titansā¦ well Iād say that, if not for the slow speed. I guess if Mana potions arenāt a concern he outclasses Tarlak, but Iām not a fan of heroes that need a lot of support against titans.
Ranvir works the way he is but heās a fast hero, so he can charge in time for raids even on a defense team. Miki at slow speed, below average HP will not work the same way, heāll be in a lot of trouble on defense teams and even on offense heāll be tough to get charged.
At the end of the day though, Iām fine if they just want to make him a core titan specialist. Itās not like titans are a minor game element, they are the most common alliance task so excelling at it is important for your success and to help your alliance out.
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Titans are king
Ok.
Click for a long, long, rambling post that will not be seen by most players and is unlikely to interest any forum user, except maybe Dev Tim ( waves to Dev Tim ). Yeah. It has been that kind of day
Game breaker
What I hear are people saying Miki is not Over powered. Miki is not a must have titan hero. Miki is not a must have defense team hero.
A lot of what I am hearing about Miki reminds me of Aegir.
Budget
It depends on a playerās luck, budget and roster.
If a player summons Miki during Challenge event, or AR, should the player leave Miki at 5* 1.1 and chase Tarlak? Ranvir? Hel?
It depends.
Roster
I have 2x Joon, Frida, and Marjana but I have spent zero 4* ascension items on them because they will not help me get 4* ascension items or emblems.
I try to level heroes that fill a hole in my roster, help me get non farmable items, and add to the versatility, and flexibility, of my roster.
Different rosters, and different alliances, may make different decisions.
Class quests
Hero XP is more plentiful with AR and Advanced House.
On average, you get 3x 3* ascension items for each 1x 4* ascension item.
I have leveled many heroes to 5* 2.60, and 5* 3.70, because they help me complete Class quests.
Barbarian Miki is strong versus triple red bosses for both Barbarian class quests. Monk Tarlak is banned.
Miki is strong versus Red Hood, Red Queen, and rumored Black Knight. Tarlak is weak color.
Miki is strong for Mystic rings rare quest. Tarlak is weak color.
Like Wu Kong, and Proteus, Miki does not have to be max tier, max level to maximize Mikiās special skill.
I leveled Aegir to 5* 3.70 mainly for Paladin quests. But several times Aegir 5* 3.70 has been useful in other situations.
Mikiās element, and class, make Miki much more useful at 5* 2.60 and 5* 3.70.
But Miki at 5* 4.80 must also be weighted against the individual situation.
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Personally I like the current Miki. Miki might be like my idea to farm 1.7-4 with 2x Melia 3*+1, not optimal but lots of fun, but I like Miki. Thanks Dev Tim for creating Miki.
HotM business model
Personally I think 4* ascension items drop rates, and 5* 4.80 Hero XP requirements, work poorly with the long term 5* HotM / 5* AR business model.
But for short term gains it is the metaphorical gold mine.
Hope
Like Aegir, I think Miki fits poorly with Empires current business model. But that actually gives me hope for the business model to evolve.
FIN
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I agree that Miki looks good, especially with the added attack increase (I actually feel the new bump is a bit much) and have a hard time understanding how tarlak is looked at as amazing and yet folks arenāt super interested in what looks to be a better overall hero. Having said that: for manyā¦ quests and trials arenāt a concern, nor is titan damage, and the area that most folks I talk to want improvement in, is war attacks and defense, which sadly, he doesnāt seem to help in ā¦ so I guess I kind of get the mixed reaction.
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QFT. He looks amazing and his special looks awesome! The mixed reaction is we canāt have a hotm for trials of survival and titan use with this kind of special. I get it Mikiās special has the potential to be so awesome that he could easily be the best hero in this game and the devs donāt want to make other heroes irrelevant. Heās a HOTM that will be pulled at a 1.3% chance and players donāt want a legendary hotm to sit at 2-60 or 3-70 COME ON. With that being said one of the aspects of this game thatās so great is the community and that we do have a voice. The beta players give us all a heads up bc Iām assuming the devs want feedback and sometimes they listen. I have saved my scopes and capes we just had an ice titan specialist in March and I promise if Iām lucky enough to pull Miki Iāll use him everywhere if you bring out his full potential lol
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I think he is too strong a already. A 4 turn 3 heroe silence is already overpowered by itself.
If mana speed were average and his specialās shifts were slowed, he would not be OP and would not make Tarlak irrelevant, as he has a normal attack buff limiter attached to his opponentās HP. And yet it would be useful in the Titans, forays, defense and wars, with its special to silence three opponents. Not raised to more than three turns, average used for āsimilarā specials like Hel, Proteus, and Peters. If it remains slow, the additions to this latter beta are welcome, but you would appreciate an increase in your HP, but it would still not be as useful as changing mana speed.
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Silencing 3 targets for 4 turns is nice but heās slow and thatās a big problem. I have Hel and she blocks mana for 3 turns but sheās average.
In defense he wonāt have a single chance to fire.
In offence seems to be better but still, slow mana and his attack buff doesnāt apply to special skills.
Titan - should be awesome when you use some mana potions.
I like him much more after last buff he got in beta. But I have Ranvir. Also I have Aegir and Ariel and only 6 telescopes. And my barbarian is GM.
I guess Iām not doing any pulls in August.
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