Can you explain 12 Ingredients?
If itās 12 Rare Ancession for 1. Thatās insane!!! 
2 Epic Ancesion for 1?
Really??
Seems like itās getting worse.
Iām an avid user and fan of the alchemy lab. For what itās worth I only use 3 levelsā¦ 3 9 And 10 but I use them regularly and do not mind the gem costs for the items produced. The problem with the current lab is that 7 of the levels are kind of useless. This really looks like itās just adding additional pointless levels and eliminating the actual beneficial features of level 10.
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Overall impression:
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Good: Some of the lower level transmutations seem to become considerably cheaper so that can actually be useful. For instance, 4B to craft midnight roots and grimoire dust from unused 2* mats. 14.5k food + a few mats of which we have incredible amounts that we would never use anyway seems absolutely fair to me
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Good: The much lower alkashard requirements + buffing emblems and 5* battle item rewards. Thank you SGG
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Bad: Some transmutations still have ridiculous prices or are mostly useless (but Iām quite positive that there will be further changes)
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Ugly: Giving 2 epic ascension items to get one seems more than wrong. I guess, P2W were much happier with the old system even if it meant paying gems. Also, I firmly believe that there should be a way to get non-farmable 3* ascension mats from farmable ones (maybe a 10% chance or so) and 4* mats from non-farmable 3* mats (same here, small chance and high food cost). Also, I think converting 4* ascension mats to other 4* ascension mats should be at a 1:1 ratio. For this level, I would consider a gem fee (but less than 300) in addition to a very high food cost appropriate (but only for this and only if itās 1:1 again)
Overall impression: A huge leap into the right direction. Some price adjustments on the lower levels would make it even better. And the barrier between farmable mats and unfarmable 3* mats as well as unfarmable 3* and unfarmable 4* mats needs to be removed.
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Use Damascus + Tabard = Boom got yourself Tome Tactics.
Congrats you can start to uninstall 
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Itās 12 Rare FARMABLE Ascension Materials for 1 random Rare UNFARMABLE Ascension Material.
Youāre trading in this sort of stuff:
And getting a random one of these:
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Thank you @zephyr1 for writing all of this.
I see this new version as an improvement over the old one mainly because of the improved rewards. In the old version it takes months to collect 10ā000 shards and the rewards are then somewhat a letdown. Requiring 1ā000 now is a huge improvement.
If itās actually faster to collect shards with the new version is debatable because of the removal of the option to use two or three recipes but once youāve built level 10 you can get the required shards with only one transmutation. Thatās also a huge improvement.
The ability to produce backpacks is awesome as well. The only ugly thing I see is the last level, where you loose an epic ascencion item, this seems like a mistake 
But yeah, Iām liking this update so far and Iāll happily go back to collecting more shards, now that I still can do multiple conversions 
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Okay thatās good to know. At least I can Run AL lvl 9 foreverā¦
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I am thinking the same. 10A transmutation looks like the best option to get alkashard and sitting on alkashard gamling table (ofc depends on transmution time which we donāt know yet)
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Mostly in the right direction, but I run level 9 for that chance of a 4* mat. The proposed changes to 9 and 10 hurt.
-Tim
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Well, ability to burn that stockpile of wooden swords and books to gain some backpacks and clothes is fine. But sacrifice a 4* material and get random one - no. This just negates all the idea of the alchemy lab. My thought, lab should take junk and give us some useful stuff. Iām positive, if result is random, conversion should be 1 to 1 for a 4* mats.
Next thing is combining shards. Lowering the cost is a good thing. Removing a guaranteed 4* is not. Maybe we should have some kind of shop here. 4* is 5k shards, 3* is 1k, emblem is 100, titan items 200, refresh is 10, forced refresh after one purchase.
Another issue is multitasking. If times are small (like 1m) - fine. If itās something like hours and days - we need a queue and multitasking.
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Zephyr, you are awesome! I speak for thousands likely when I say we appreciate your effort put into this. Always love the posts and insight on everything.
Now, This level 10B where it costs you TWO 4* ascension items to get a random ONE in return? No thank you. 10A seems maybe ok if I needed rare items (I donāt)ā¦but could be ok for alkashard collecting I guess for an ultimate shot at something decent.
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i love 1st Version and always use it , i better pay 250 gem + 1 *4 than need to sacrifice 2 *4 + 3M food just for 1 + random ? oh dear , i can say goodbye to Alchemist lab now
bad update , just same as Titanium shield
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I didnāt see it, but has anybody tested what happens if a transformation is queued up in V29, using an existing recipe, (I.e. in your regular account), and you import it into V30 beta.
Because I have a significant Dblade surplus and might queue up ~4 transformations now since the two for one is worse than the 250 gem cost by a long shot for me.
If I do Iāll be lucky to get half of them out before release.
Thank you @zephyr1. I dont comment much but read alot. You are amazing along with the other moderators. I am switching from advanced storage for sh25 to finishing AL
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Q2: are existing alkashards just copied over in the upgrade?
It looks like the value of them is increased a bit; cashing in takes 1/10th the shards but gives more like 1/5th the rewards.
I would gladly cough up Mystic rings +(1-4) Non-Farmable 3* mats to reroll them into a different 4* mat.
I would gladly sacrifice 16 Non-Farmable 3* mats for 1 4* Ascension Mat, maybe just a chance at that 4* Ascension Mat.
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Thanks, @zephyr1! I have to tell you that this is a great read. You write better than some graduate students Iāve graded: clear, concise, with proper spelling and punctuation. Iām proud of you.
Alsoā¦wonderful info. Thanx again.
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Definitely agree!! When you separate the wheat from the chaff you dont start with 2 pounds of wheat and come out with a pound of wheat and a pound of chaff!! A 4* AM plus 2 3* (and the obligatory pummeling of my food stores) would seem much more even keel
ALSO
I most definitely will lament the loss of multitasking as that was one of the unique features of the Alchemy Labā¦ maybe they could have an Alchemy Key you pay like $5USD to unlock a second Alchemy āroomā in the lab so you can run 2 at onceā¦ similar to the already in use second base builder VIP affords you (sorry fellow players for suggesting yet another monthly expense on top of the VIP and PoV)
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Thereās so much information about the AL both previous and new, I havenāt built it yet so I donāt know anything about the AL butā¦
Assuming that the new AL stays like it currently is, is it worth it to use AL now to save up shards to use after the change happens?