I donāt know what to tell you.
Iām in Beta, no other buildings unlocked with Stronghold 25, and I was able to build and research all of Hero Academy.
I already have 3 of each Advanced Storage in the live game from SH24.
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Just realized the chance to get an old Hotm from T10 is in fact more than 50%, there is total 20 legendary 5*s from S1 and there is 24 Hotm on the list. But the chance to get the hero you wanted is like 2%, unless there are mutiple heroes you are looking for. For those who are only missing 1 or 2 Hotm on the list, itās like 1 pull per week to get your hero, the odd is really low. Plus there could be spenders who gets all the Hotm listed which means they donāt really need HA. So it does seem to be Ftp/Ctp friendly.
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| Level | Ability | Upgrade Cost | Upgrade Time | Research Cost | Research Time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | Retrain your LEGENDARY Heroes | 2748kIron | 12d 13h | 3311kFood | 14d 0h |
but not max;
as seen above: 2626 < 2748 and 3153 < 3311
š§Ŗ Early Information on Hero Academy [Part of The Beta Beat v30] - #113 by BoolzSan_CrewKNIGHTS
but to max, you need 4 each
Yes, the HotMs are more than the S1 heroes but actually the odds of getting HotM will be much lower.
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Underwhelmingā¦would really like to see the ability to re-train HOTMs and event/Atlantis/Valhalla legendaries. Also, the resource costs for some of these trainings are really high. This may not cost gems, but sacrificing days worth of food will hurt.
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no because it doesnt say all the odds ae equal the odds of getting season one hero may be way higher then HOTM.
I think this at first glance looks like a useless feature if it is going to take an entire week to exchange and the odds are 5% or lower then it will be more then realistic to go an entire year without ever getting a HOTM. at current I am still missing some of the season one five stars, but eventually I will have them all and will just be recycling.
it may be useful for a short period of time, but that will not last.
Maybe if they threw in chances of getting event challenge heros season two heros season 3 heros or a costume etc it might be worth it or even add alkashars to this thing to then we might have more temptations for it.
7 days is a long time to wait for such a small chance. maybe this should be shortened to 3/4 days.
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| Level | Ability | Iron | Food | Recruits | Other Costs | Time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | Train EPIC Heroes | - | 305kFood | 150 | 3x Battle Manual, 3x Tall Boots, 3x Chainmail Shirt, 3x Scabbar | 5d 0h |
so this will give only 4* heroes?
time to eat those 4*s up. lol
Sounds More fair then the current way. You have to consider that you have to pay already a 5 star hero witch was hard to get with the low odds. And if you pay a hotm its fair to get a hotm, maybe it could cost 14 daysā¦if you pay an eventhero, its fair to get an eventhero. If you pay a s1 hero its fair to get an s1 hero ā¦
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As far as 5sā¦its a complete bust for me. Ive been hanging onto 5s foreverā¦just a secā¦let me countā¦
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57 duplicate 5s and the only possible gain I can get would be Thoth (joke), Perseus, Aeron and Zeline. I have everything else and none of those would get mats in any foreseeable future.
Im sure it is going to be great for many players and I am not saying its bad. I just donāt think it is what players like me were hoping for. I wanted to seeā¦
Trade multiple 5s for your choice of one 5
Trade in your 5 for Tabards, Rings, Tomesā¦etc
Trade your 5s in for emblems
As is, it seems my bench is just a pantry full of stale food.
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I had bigger expectations for this building - it is turning into āAdvancedā Training Camp.
If I get the same hero that Iāve invested after 7 days of waiting, this will be valid reason to quit this game!?
Even more if you have multiple 5* heroes and you get more of them after the conversion.
Empires and Puzzles should really start deviating from all around randomness of the game.
You aim for a certain hero and there is a certain price to get it. This is much more attractive and purposeful. Stop with the randomness!
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thatās for HOTM not regular legendary
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Iām not sure where you got those numbers from, but with 3 maxed Advanced Food and Iron Storages in Beta I have 3318k Food and 2751k Iron capacity.
Thatās enough to fully max Hero Academy.
Thereās no fourth Advanced Iron or Food Storage in Beta.
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Summary
compare max capacity for one in beta vs one in non-beta
add them up and compare again
see if the base storage is the same
beta is also 1m to train some 7d right?
so should be normal
OR
a change will appear with the release of sh25 and capacity will be implicitly increased
you are right. the formula is wrong
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609k for Iron in both
873k for Food in both
I checked, and the regular Storages match too.
Itās either a difference in the Stronghold, or your math is off.
EDIT: sounds like you found it
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Hi community in HOTM list I didnāt see no 3,4,10,11 and 12 , if anyone have pictures plz share . Thanks
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Basically it is not worth investing anything in the academy. I understand that it is still in beta, but as things go in the game right now, it will be still be useless building. Very disappointed.
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Yay, we lived long enough to see it!
I have kinda mixed feelings, but overall positive (compared to stuff like AL).
On PLUS
I love that it focuses on using the low level ascension mats that we never used. I especially love level 3 - guaranteed uncommon hero at 1 min is huge. Possibly food expensive but still.
Costs on all levels look to be improvements for Training Camp. No more insanity like AL. And even Hunterās Lodge when you consider cost vs how the item compare to their much cheaper versions.
No gem cost! And converting 5 star into 5 star.
But now on MINUS
Iāll skip the odds that seem to be brutal and hoping for them to improve. But! I really hoped for something to allow me to deal with the surplus of unused 5 star heroes. And not just classic ones, but HotMs and Event heroes that Iām never going to use. This current version doesnāt allow that - Iām as well using that one Khagan and just keep trying until a Drake Fong shows up in 2026. I donāt like that the value of classic hero input is the same as much rarer HotM or Event one. Credits to @bobiscool for the idea to be able to put in multiple heroes at once to increase chances of getting HotM. Value Classic hero at 2%, HotM at 5%, Event Hero at 10%. Anyways, it sucks that first time I run it on a dupe HotM it will turn them into a Horghall and them keep spitting Elenas and Justices till the end of time.
I know some other game already has it and it may be brutal with low odds, but maybe have the hero turned to 50 emblems of its class instead of a Classic 5 star in case of a āfailedā conversion to a HotM? Maybe make it an option to select? Or just have it work this way when you put in HotM or Event hero? Turn Aegir into Justice + 50 Paladin emblems if it fails, then I can just feed away Justice no hard feelings, or keep trying melting her but not getting emblems anymore.
Frankly, at current version Iād enjoy HA more if run on some of those lower levels, especially to train feeders, instead of using its level 10. Iāll be fine, but can see this may be disappointing for some. Oh, and not sure what Iām going to do with all my Aegirs and Evelyns, not to mention the Marjanasā¦
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I mean itās not bad. I donāt really see what took so long in it getting here. Itās hardly going to change the game but if it results in me getting a free Zeline in 2023 or whatever I guess it was worth it.