šŸ§Ŗ Early Information on Costumes (Formerly Skins) [Part of The Beta Beat v23, v24 & v25]

Actually feature was already yanked

Costs of 4* mats werenā€™t disclosed yet disappearing from inventory upon ascending 5* costumes

Unknown whether bug or intentionalā€¦

Rumor has it anyways

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The carrot chasing doesnā€™t stop, ugh.

Thatā€™s an interesting perspective. Gives me a different thought. My initial thought is that I hate this addition to the game. I donā€™t mind stuff for aesthetic purposes, but the fact that it will boost skills ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  me off. Iā€™ve spent a ton of money on my heroes. Now I have to spend more to boost the maxed heroes I spent time and money getting mats for. This is stupid.

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How distinct are these costumes? That is, will it be immediately obvious from the card and appearance on the battlefield which version of a hero is being fought?

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They vary a bit, but overall theyā€™re quite distinct.

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Did the name on the card change? So you could have a Boldtusk card and a Chef Boldtusk card?

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The card name doesnā€™t change, but each Costume has a name like heroes have titles now in their detail view, e.g. regular Rigard is Noble Cavalier, and his Costume is Dapper Noble.

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Since you can use Rigardā€™s costume on as many Rigards as you want(once you get it), is there no value to having multiple of the same Rigard costume?

Also, did they make a new tab for storing all of these? I remember reading that there was no cap on storageā€¦

Thereā€™s no apparent value in keeping multiple currently, and they can be used as feeders for other Costumes.

Theyā€™re stored in Inventory in a new tab under General.

They actually appear to be working on reorganizing the Inventory too, there are new tabs for Emblems and Utility in the General section, which split out Emblems from Flasks, Tokens, and Loot Tickets.

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Iā€™m glad to hear that they are working on reorganizing inventory.

Gives me hope that they might also fix the hero roster. It can get to be so big for many of us. I also think that, when Season 3 rolls around, they should bump up everyoneā€™s base storage a bit(keep dreaming, I know)ā€¦

I just wish we had something like a deep storage hero tab. Not an increase in roster size, but you could put some of your heroes in storage. Ones you intend to keep but have no intention of using anytime in the foreseeable future.

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Please and thank you.

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I wish! Iā€™m gonna go vote for those. I know Tim said in the AMA that he does want to address this. Seems really low on the priority list. Hearing they are organizing the inventory gives me hope though :slight_smile:

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Its more likely that they have change the visual but forget to change the codeā€¦ but who knows :man_shrugging:t3:

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@zephyr1, Iā€™m rather glad that we donā€™t know what AM we will need to level the ā€œcostumesā€. Using 4* AM and going through that grind for each hero again is rather a deal breaker for me. I certainly hope thatā€™s not the case.

I really like the idea, again, but the implementation is what Iā€™m afraid of. Good luck in Beta!! And thanks again for taking the time to create this posts and answer questions.

P.S @Petri, I think @zephyr1 deserves a few PEELED potatoes this month!!

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I believe this as well. It wasnā€™t taking the full required mats if thatā€™s any kind of relief

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@StephenNap89, I really liked this idea when you 1st brought it up. Continuously buying more roster space becomes a drain. Especially knowing Iā€™m not leveling these dupes up for quite some time with all the 4-5* projects I have lined up. I would love something like this!!

Agreed. The more I think on it the more concerns I have for the long term. Once costumes get added I wonder whether we will ever see the sort of re-balancing we saw with V20 again. I mean why would the developers ever re-balance heroes for free again when they can toss a new costume into the wardrobe that people will spend to try summon for. Good luck to those wanting a buff for heroes like Atomos ā€“ youā€™ll have to wait a year for his totally awesome costume but be prepared to have to pay to get it re-balanced.

When you consider this alongside the hike in hero stats that the new Challenge Event heroes have had over the Season 2 heroes (biggest acceleration in power creep the game has yet to see) it seems cautious game balance is becoming secondary to putting on the pressure to get people to keep their maxed heroes relevant.

It just seems to me that the game is starting to feel more like travelling with a rubbish budget airline that keeps looking for new ways to introduce additional fees (additional booking charges, cabin bag fees, premium fees for being in an odd numbered seat on a day with a T in the name, oxygen rental etc etc). I get that the company wants to make a profit (and judging by their sale to Zynga they hadnā€™t been doing too badly at that already) and Iā€™m happy to financially support games I enjoy playing but it now feels like that when it comes to new features the emphasis has switched from how it benefits the game to ā€œwhat can we get away with.ā€ It is becoming depressingly too frequent that the first iteration of a new feature in Beta seems overtly greedy and needs objecting too by the player base (Pay to participate in tournaments, gem costs for transmutations in Alchemy Lab now pulling to try get your heroā€™s costume). Some of the other match-3 puzzle games out there have loyalty discounts and bonuses that just mentioning in the context of this that seems alien but the major reason why Iā€™ve not been tempted to jump ship and remain in E&P as F2P only is that Iā€™m still subscribing to the sunken cost fallacy of sticking with a roster Iā€™ve already built up ā€“ though once half of them are no longer maxed any more I canā€™t say I would be happy staying that way given the general direction/climate under which developments seem to be coming from.

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I hope they implement this. Iā€™m sick of scrolling through all the 4s I have that I am not gonna level. I know Iā€™m the one that is choosing to keep them, but still, more organization would be amazing :stuck_out_tongue: Even ignoring the people who hoard, hoping for hero academy to work well, a lot of great 5s are kept with no intention of leveling them anytime soon. I have King Arthur. Heā€™s amazingā€¦ but I pulled him after I maxed Frida. They are too similar so he wonā€™t be leveled for a long, long time. I certainly am not gonna get rid of him, but I wouldnā€™t mind being able to store him so I have a less cluttered roster.

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Thanks @Rigs, really good to know. Hopefully they realize thereā€™s grinding and then there is redundancy. The latter is not enjoyable, at least to me.

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they are very differents in almost every heroesā€¦