4* heroes- who to keep, who to level and who to feed?

So I have decided to do something with my 4* heroes that have been left untouched (some for quite a while).
I have never used any of these 32 heroes and don’t see much of them about to be honest - or I have a blind spot to them ……
So can I ask for your experienced opinions on who to keep, who to focus on first and who to feed away.
Thanks in advance.

Purple:
Fura
Stonecleave
Ameonna
Cheshire Cat
Boomer
Cyprian

Yellow:
Costume Chao
Costume Hu Tao
Griffin
Danzaburo

Blue:
Captain of Diamonds
Sanngrior
Zila Lei
Sapphire
Frank
Mireweave
Agwe

Red:
Mack
Eichbelborg
Rokkamush
Shale
Shadereave
Sumle
Costume Kelile
Costume Scarlett
Sumitomo

Green:
Tettukh
Gobbler
Jack O’Hare
Costume Kashhrek
Peters
Costume Skittleskull

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Picking out a few I use a lot and would say def level up

Sapphire
Sumle
Shadereave
Peter’s

Dont have but wish I did
Frank
Eicholborg
Tettukh
Costume Scarlett
Mack

Dont bother with
Boomer
Sangrior
Agwe
Shale

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So are you saying you have no leveled 4* heroes? Cuz if you do it would be helpful to know what you already have.

And it would be helpful to know what you’re planning to do with them. Are you looking for supplemental help to your 5* roster or strictly for epic tournaments and events?

@Tess_01 … I have 35 x max 4* heroes. Some with costumes and most with emblems.
Any new ones will really only be used for tournaments and events.

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Just my experience, so if I leave heroes out, it’s just possibly because I don’t use them… namely anything non-S1.

Purple:
Ameonna - she’s back on my titan team, but not essential
Cyprian… never use, but I don’t use riposte heroes much.

Yellow:
Costume Chao - Mana controller can’t be beat, especially at fast, although just affects one
Griffin - Haven’t had too much experience, but I’m starting to try him against Ursena. He can survive a hit (and even dodge with emblems), but his bypass on reflect/riposte has potential

Blue:
Have none other than Mireweave, and nothing exceptional there

Red:
Can’t say, I have Mack and Rokkamush, but haven’t used yet

Green:
Gobbler - Useful for minion killing. Can be boosted with emblems
Peters - Another goto hero when it comes to mana control. Doesn’t prevent mana gain, but will at least buy some time with his silence.
Have Jack O’Hare, but haven’t used much.

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:woman_shrugging:

Recommendations are so situational. I like the Sumle/Wilbur combo, for example, especially for VF war and tourneys. But if I had Colen’s costume I wouldn’t bother with Sumle

Scarlett (I don’t have costume) and Griffin are both on my titan teams for their high tile damage. Also both are rogues and the evade is great fun

I recently stripped emblems from Frank and took Jott to +20. Frank ended up not being as useful as I thought he would

Peters and Tettukh are very similar, but I gave the nod to Tettukh today for longer silence and additional poison damage

I hear costume Chao is amazing. I have had such crappy luck with costume portal since the last wave came out.

I thought Cheshire Cat would be good for titans, with higher def down than Tibs, but at 4 turns he was costing me tile moves to keep him charged

Costume HuTao +20 kicked my butt today in rush tourney…

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Frank is great on VF tournament and War.
Sumle pair with Wilbur is also good.
Mack can be good for tournament buff booster.
Scarlett CB (emblemed) highest attack stat for events and Titan if we do not have high 5* attack stat.
Tettutkh and Peters great for AW VF rules.

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Dark: Cheshire Cat only if you don’t have a equal or better defense down option for titans

Holy: I would like chaos costume.

Blue: sapphire. I love that mana mechanic.

Red: if you use Scarlett night as well get the bonus

Green: I wanted peters for a while. I don’t use him nearly as much as I thought I would.

You have identified a lot of the meh four star heroes. I came up with a few I want or use but I wouldn’t struggle without them.

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Hey - I did not use all of them, but I base my opinions on my research when trying to decide on my own levelling and also my fights against them on defense:

Purple:
Fura hits are weak, I decided against levelling her.
Ameonna does not do much - I will not level her.
Stonecleave has some very good synergy with himself, but I am not sure I’d level him if I would have to level only one.
Cyprian - I have Boril and he is better for me and enough.
Chesire Cat - see what the others said about titan. Boomer - no idea.

Yellow
I have worked a bit with Costume Chao. He is good if you have that one hero that you want to slow down.
Hu Tao - is a killer on defense in very fast tournaments and not only. If he fires twice, you’re done for. Often is enough for him to fire once, because of that nasty Blind.
Griffin - not sure. He seems very good in theory, but in practice he is not very versatile
Danzaburo - if you like gambling, but most of the time he was not a problem for me.

Blue:
Captain of Diamonds - don’t have him, don’t know
Sanngrior - only if you need a hero like Kashrek in blue with better stats, basically a blue tank for tournaments
Zila Lei- She is good, but not overwhelming. It helps though to have a hero that goes after the wings
Sapphire - Good attacker but squishy. It helps especially if you use her with Ametrine or support for other 5* Ninja.
Mireweave and Agwe - not that bad, but I don’t think I will level them very soon. Agwe created problems when I met him on defense if I did not have a good board.

Red
Mack - Boril with better attack stats and attack up, but I have better heroes for that.
Eichbelborg - balanced stats, I will max one to use as a less squishy sniper than Kelile
Rokkamush - that 50% miss chance is too high. I met him on defense, does not do much. I will not level hum.
Shale - Not really good, difficult to get him to the 3rd charge which is the only one really good.
Shadereave - decent support hero, but not a priority for me
Sumle - next red 4* to ascend for me. He can do really a lot of damage with some attack up.
Costume Kelile - good DoT if you want to try
Costume Scarlett - I use the regular version with costume bonus quite often
Sumitomo - I would not level him.

Green:
Tettukh and Peters - if you do not have many other mana controllers, I would level them right away.
Gobbler - again, if you don’t have many other anti-minion heroes
Jack O’Hare - on my list to level after Tettukh, seems a really good hitter
Costume Kashrek - very good if you want a green 4* tank
Costume Skittleskull - good for very fast tournaments

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I personally keep one of every hero… but the ones that stand out to me from your list are:

  1. Costume Chao. Mana control always good, and a big upgrade over regular Chao

  2. Griffin. Powerful yellow sniper. Faced a +20 in the recent tourney who had 1009 attack, and he murdered my poor heroes one by one

  3. Costume Scarlett seems promising because of her very high attack

  4. Costume Kashhrek for sure, overheal is the best.

  5. Tettukh and Peters both silence, so could be good backup mana controllers.

  6. Jack O’Hare hits hard and fast, I would consider him for 4* tourneys except Rush (better to use “slow” AoEs with more useful secondary effects)

  7. Costume Skittles is great for 4* Rush

  8. Gobbler could be useful against minions, though I don’t find minions much of a problem in the 4* environment. and in the 5* environment I prefer Bera or C-Gormek

  9. Sapphire - pretty good ninja

edit to add

  1. Hu Tao indeed. also good for rush.

  2. Danzaburo is questionable, but quite sturdy for a 4*. Have also used him with some success in 4* tourneys. depends on your tolerance for RNG

  3. C-Kelile is decent too, she’s not a bad sniper and can round out a 4* bench quite well. or use the costume for DoT. either way she’s a decent hero.

  4. Shadereave is kinda niche, and I don’t use him on Titans as I need Boldtusk’s heal. that said, he should be considered for 4* tourneys - buff booster and rush attack especially. 3x buffs at once, whooo!

Am undecided about Zila Lei, am still leveling mine

The No list: (disclaimer: only commenting on heroes I own)

  1. Fura. sadly, hit is too weak, and is too fragile generally. When facing healer-heavy defenses in Tourneys, I’d rather bring sturdier dispellers and mana controllers

  2. Cyprian. I think you’re far too advanced for him. I barely use mine even in class quests.

  3. Agwe. Too situational. Does not hit hard enough in my opinion.

  4. Mireweave. Mana speed + stack are nice but, I dislike her lack of benefit to the rest of my team… I’d rather bring Kiril or C-Grimm to boost the attack of others.

  5. Sumitomo. Cannot find a good use case for him. Even in buff booster, as he only buffs self

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I can speak from personal experience about some of these heroes, since I only play with 4*:

cChao is great in Trials quests and for completing Legendary challenge events and for stealing the mana of tough, but slow-charging bosses like the ones in the Tavern of Legends or Costume chamber last stages. He is OK in raids and tournaments as well. I doubt that he will be great if you want to compete in challenge events though.

Griffin has better stats than cChao, and is generally probably the best pure 4* yellow sniper there is, so I’d say he should take priority over cChao if we’re talking about main target being 4* raid tournaments. I don’t have him though, just speaking theoretically here.

Chesire Cat I see being constantly used vs 14* yellow titans, so I guess there are no better purple pure def down heroes.

Cyprian I used a lot to develop myself early game, but now I stripped him of his emblems and he’s taking the bench now for quite a while. So my guess is he’s a decent early game, not much use late-game.

Hu Tao is great in very fast events as others already mentioned, but also on harder map stages where his blind keeps everyone in check and serves as a massive heal.

From the blue heroes I could see Sapphire being okay-ish. Maxing her depends on what other blue 4* you already have.

From the reds I constantly use Sumle, cKelile and cScarlett (the latter only for costume bonuses). They are all ok, but cScarlett is the best amongst them. Sadly my Sumle misses a lot and in the most important cases which will probably make me reconsider his usefulness and strip him of his 19 nodes of emblems. But for very fast events he’s still great. I can see Mack being okay-ish as a tank in 4* raid tournaments where blues are banned.

From green, cKashhrek sees a lot of praise. I have him but really am not that impressed by him. Yet he’s decent and you can safely max him. I concur that Peters and Tettukh should be maxed - for example they can help versus Blue rare high* titan where you can’t bring Mikki along, but they can also have other uses. cSkittles is probably a good option vs the blue Mythic titan where the quantity of high-tile green hitters is important for achieving max score, and also in very fast tournaments.

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I levelled Cheshire Cat just for a laugh and use it whenever I get an excuse, which sadly is not often. I rarely bring it against titans (would if its def down were elemental, but it’s not). However I find it both handy and fun in niche uses like war cleanup and the sort of teams where you want to shuffle the tank out of the middle. The only other one of the purples you mention who I’ve levelled is Cyprian (with costume), although I have them all; sometimes he gets an outing on stuff like 4* tournaments and epic level events.

I’ve only recently discovered the joy that is Hu Tao in rush events. Recommended.

Most of the ones you list have utility and might be worth levelling up if you ever have excess recruits and no serious projects on the go. However, I not only haven’t bothered but probably never will in the case of Fura, Ameonna, Boomer, Danzaburo, Capt. of Diamonds, Sanngrior, Agwe or Rokkamush. Ones I don’t have but would level if I had them: Chao’s costume, Sapphire (ninja innit?). Don’t have Shale either but don’t feel the need.

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Purple:
1 Cheshire Cat - His normal def down to yellows acn be useful against titan and in certain raids. I use cat with panther even now for yellow titans.
2 Ameonna - If u are below 10* titans she can be useful. Her attack stat is off the chart especially when she ghosts herself. She can be trained after Cat.
3 Stonecleave - Can be a nuisance in the wing. Not a threat. I will not prioratize but eventually will give me some love.
0 Fura - Wet noodles.
0 Boomer - weak and rare usage
0 Cyprian - Reflect heros are no longer the meta. I have him but never used in 3 years.

Yellow:
1- Costume Chao - Poor man’s Onatel wannabe
2- Costume Hu Tao - For very fast tournys and wars. His blind and heal cut by 50% can change the game a lot of times.
3- Griffin - If he survives can be useful against Ursena. He is decent
0 Danzaburo - Wild card and mostly farts on himself than anything useful. Won’t bother.

Blue:
1 Sapphire - Definite worth ascension. Hits hard and harder with more charge.
2 Zila Lei - Wannabe Jabberwock. Useful for Titans and regular raids
3 Frank - Better than Grimm and lives longer than him. Slow is the only pitfal. good for V fast game play.
4 Sanngrior - Nothing great to speak of, Kiril and Costume does way better. Worse than Kashhrek

0 Captain of Diamonds - Meh. I still use to clean up in minion wars, but thats just because I have him. No use for him.
0 Mireweave - Fun card, Dont waste mats on her
0 Agwe - My first blue 4 star i used for almost a year. Shined for a long time in platinum along with Frieda. Useless in the current stage of the game .

Red:
1 Mack - Good for Attack up tourney and red stacks
2 Costume Scarlett - Gets a lot of game play with her attack down and poison
3 Costume Kelile - Jean Francois wanabe. I will use the regular one with costume bonus. Great snipper.
4 Eichbelborg - Decent attack hero. Can be useful for titans but there are better options as well.
5 Shale - Good only when paired with other ninjas for family bonus. Good healer/ clenser for red stacks
6 Sumle - With BT and Wilber can be devastating, but slow. again a V fast tourney hero or only attack hero for 4 * events
0 Shadereave - Too slow for the game and the benifits. Only useful in V fast 4* tourneys as wing
0 Rokkamush - Wild card. Missed more than hits. Can be leveled when no oterh projects are available
0 Sumitomo - Meh.

Green:
1 Tettukh - I pair him with Peter and Hansel for V fast tourneys for mana control. Definitely yes
2 Peters - As above
3 Jack O’Hare - I use him with ulmer and Buddy. devastating.
0 Gobbler - Meh, and still Meh
0 Costume Kashhrek - V fast tourney with no red heros. Otherwise meh.
0 Costume Skittleskull - If Fully emblemed useful for V fast. Else no

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Just want to chip in with a vote for Cheshire. But possibly because I have a soft spot for him as he was one of the first 4* I levelled up.
The cat has his uses. His Holy defense down is great.
Poison over time is always useful.
But I do enjoy the random rearrange of enemies. Helps shift tanks and can also muck up defenses that have Heal or power up near by abilities. Once you have taken out one or two enemies he can spread the pack and allow you to pick people off one by one…

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Or pull that annoying Rigard out of the corner where you can’t get any tiles onto him!

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