I usually sit around 2700-2800 and i donāt see a ton either. Im just curious because it is good to know for future reference. I do see some in war, but i stopped doing war for a bit.
Hi, can you create a bug topic for this? Under Bugs & Issues.
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Iāll test him some more to make sure, and will create a topic after if I think heās still not performing correctly.
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i donāt have him but i think his mana steal should be 1st thing in his skillā¦ it will make him more consistent
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I agree totally, he should steal mana first, heās not as amazing as I first thought when I pulled him tbh.
I tested shacklebolt 10 times against Myoin-ni to see if he steals more mana if she is charged 2nd and 3rd time but didnāt saw any differenceā¦ But i might be wrong dunno, i think it needs more tests
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@Petri After further testing it seems that he is probably working correctly, however, to avoid confusion I would like @Star150m said put his mana steal first before the damage as along with class talents that can apparently block his mana steal, etc, sometimes it seems like heās not working as he should.
Iām still not entirely convinced by his performance personally, however, I canāt definitively say thereās something here a bug report is needed for.
Though what I will say is I am not a fan of him on offense, fully emblemed for attack and his hit is lackluster half of the time for some reason.
On defense, not what Iāve seen on offense most of the time, Iād rather use someone else on offense actually, he hinders my team.
I have this guy and also got Darkfeather and C Helā¦ Wondering which one to finish firstā¦ To be used as tank in wars and main defence.
I much prefer C. Hel for general use personally, as I said before on this thread and after testing I am correct in my opinion, Shacklebolt is better on defense, courtesy of my alliance members I can confirm that - he hits often and hard as tiles will charge his core a lot faster than on offense and denies 1 - 3 heroes firing their specials that turn.
On offense, honestly, Iām not sure whatās up but he doesnāt do much, he only steals 25% of the current mana the 3 enemy heroes have, which unless theyāre near a full bar, it isnāt much - half of the time there arenāt many if any buffs to copy, and his damage for some reason doesnāt hit as hard on offense than it does defense, he most certainly is not as versatile as C. Hel or even Darkfeather, Iād personally say C. Hel is āgoodā on defense, however, not top tier, on offense however, she is top tier.
On defense, Iād say Shacklebolt edges out Darkfeather as to which Iād have on there, on offense though either 2 other than Shackle are better imoā¦
C. Hel is also very, very useful for map stages, events, etc - making it so the bosses never fire is key.
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I use him on defense, and i use my defense team for offensive raiding, too.
Heās very good in offense from what I have experienced, and he does charge quite fast, especially with there being a lot of fast hitters on defenses these days.
I love him on both, but I really do still wish he would steal the mana first before he kills the enemies.
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Honestly, I was expecting more mana steal, again, unless theyāre near a full bar it doesnāt do much for either you or them.
Boiling it down on offense, he steals what will be a mediocre amount of mana most of the time from 3 max, he hits, not super hard to only 3 max - and he copies buffs from 3 max and then just randomly dumps them on your team (if there are any, which again, is not always).
Imo there are a lot of better offensive options, and Iām disappointed to say that, his first looks looked ostensible, however, after testing, he will not be joining my offense team at all, and I doubt I will LB/2LB him.
I flank DF and Smarttongue for Shacklebolt, and I have had enough times where his bit of mana stealing has helped a lot, giving ST that tiny bit she needs.
For me personally I love him on offense
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Okay, but a hero giving your 2 heroes a tiny bit of mana just to get them over the threshold doesnāt make them categorically great (not saying thatās what youāre saying), Iād much rather use a moderate mana increaser like Ariel Costume, Toxicandra, and would much rather use Ludwig, etc.
I mean donāt get me wrong, this guy seems to be pretty good on defense from my testing, at least from the testing I did that was focused on just him in the team, I assume heād be just as good in the actual team thatās not designed to only keep him alive for testing purposes, Iāll get round to properly testing him in a real-world team once Frog Prince is done.
Like you said though, his mana steal needs to be put first, and perhaps something that benefits offense, not sure what, perhaps upping the mana steal seeing as he is just a hit 3 hero.
its always the same guy rating him in this thread 
but dont think his opinion about him is very accurate im sorry
notyous rating seems better
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Itās an opinion dimwit, an opinion canāt be wrong, get your heroes up if you think this guy is amazing.