Odile - 5* Dark / Purple from Secrets of the Opera

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New Opera hero is released: Odile

This thread is for discussing strategy related to Odile, as well as your thoughts on Odile.

Odile
Rarity Element Class Mana Speed
:star::star::star::star::star:
Legendary		 :new_moon:
Dark/Purple		 image
Rogue		 F
Fast
Level Attack Defense Health

4/80		 :crossed_swords:
1065		 :shield:
953		 :heart:
1849
4/85 1147 1027 1993
4/90 1313 1176 2280
Origin Family
Secrets of the Opera Opera
Image Aether Power Description
defense-up Defense Up At the start of each battle, this Hero gets +20% defense for 6 turns.
In battles with multiple waves, the effect is refreshed at the beginning of each wave.
:no_entry_sign: Resist: Resist Defense Ailments
This character has innate resistance against status ailments that affect defense. Doesn’t apply to status ailments that affect elemental defense.
:hourglass: Ability: Heal when status ailment expires or cleared
This character receives 5% health each time a status ailment expires or is cleansed, removed or reallocated from them. This effect can activate only once per turn.
:dizzy: Special Skill: Dance of the Black Swan
  • Boosts health for all allies by 475. Boosted health can exceed max HP.
  • Casts Dance of the Black Swan to all allies but caster for 4 turns. All existing status effects will be removed when this effect is added.

    • Dance of the Black Swan
    • At the end of each turn the dancers deal 155% damage to a random enemy and boosts health for themselves for 25% damage dealt.
    • Gives immunity to new status effects. New dance status effects will replace this effect.
    • This effect cannot be dispelled. The effect is removed when the caster dies.

All-in-one still under construction. Card image to be added when available.

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:hugs: Family Bonus

Heroes become stronger when teamed with other unique Heroes of the same family.

Opera Family
Bonus for 1 / 2 / 3 Heroes:

  • +5% / +10% / +15% attack.
  • +5% / +10% / +15% defense.
  • +5% / +10% / +15% HP.

:test_tube: Changes from Beta

  • Attack is increased from 990 to 1065.
  • Defense is increased from 871 to 953.
  • Health is increased from 1625 to 1849.
  • Mana generation effect is removed.
  • The aborbed boosted health is reduced from 35% to 25% of the dealt damage in the dance effect.

Beta Information: 🧪 Early Information on new Round 4 of Secrets of Opera Heroes [Part of The Beta Beat v65]

:thought_balloon: What do you think of Odile ?

This thread is for thoughts and discussion on Odile.

Based on preferences Forum members have expressed, please try to stick mainly to Odile and not wander off topic too much to other heroes.

Some Popular Questions for Discussion

  • Is Odile worth summoning for?

  • Would you use Odile on Defense? Offense? War? Quests/Events? Titans?

  • Which heroes on your Roster best pair with Odile ?

  • What heroes would you take when facing Odile as an opponent?

  • Would you give Odile Rogue Emblems? Which Talent Grid path will you choose?

  • What do you think of special?

  • What do you think of Odile’s character design?

  • If you Summoned Odile and would like to post your results, please include some thoughts on why you Summoned Odile, and whether/how you plan to make use of them.*

*NOTE: Summon Results posted without any commentary/feedback at all should be flagged as Off Topic and removed, based on preferences expressed by the Forum community. Please include some comments about what you think of Odile when posting Summon Results. In addition to opinions about Odile, you are also encouraged to include how many Summons it took before receiving Odile (or how many Summons you’ve done without receiving Odile), so other players are presented with realistic experiences of the rarity of Legendary Event Hero.

:money_with_wings: Avoiding Overspending & Heartache :broken_heart:

More Insights & Reading

I highly recommend reading these three threads for more information and context on summoning odds:

If you’ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later. :slight_smile:

:thinking: Wondering About Your Personal Situation?

Feel free to discuss your team and roster here, and ask for advice from other Forum members.

If you’d like more extensive advice on sorting out your particular roster, I recommend creating a new thread in Gameplay Help & Tactics, and posting screenshots of your hero roster, along with your questions.

:link: Related Threads You May Be Interested In

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Feedback Poll - Odile (post release)


:question: Is Odile worth Summoning For?

  • Yes, absolutely
  • Only if you’re P2P
  • Yes, but only when featured.
  • Not really
  • Not at all
0 voters

:question: How many copies of Odile would be useful to keep & Level?

Note - this is roster space dependent & isn’t the same for everyone!

  • Zero
  • Just one
  • 2
  • 3
  • All of them
0 voters

:question: What do you think Odile’s Primary Purpose is?

  • HP Booster (Immediate)
  • Cleanser
  • Damage Dealer (wtih absorbed Health Boost)
  • Status Effect Immunizer
0 voters

:question: What do you think of Odile compared to other Heroes?

  • Over Powered (OP)
  • Little stronger than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Little Weaker than Most
  • Completely Broken (Under Powered)
0 voters

:question: How does Odile’s Special Skill and Intended Purpose match Odile’s Base Stats?

Note this means Odile’s Class, Attack, Defence & HP Stat

  • Perfectly
  • Better than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Worse than Most
  • Terribly
0 voters

:question: Is Odile worth giving Rogue Emblems to?

  • Yes absolutely
  • Depends on who else you got
  • Hmmmm, not sure yet
  • No I don’t think so
  • No… Not at all.
0 voters

:question: In Defence, where do you think Odile is best used?

  • Left Wing
  • Left Flank
  • Tank
  • Right Flank
  • Right Wing
  • Not on defence at all.
0 voters

:question: How do you think Odile is best used?

  • PvP Raids/ War attack
  • Normal Defence
  • War Defence
  • Titans
  • Farming
  • Tournaments
  • Event Teams
0 voters
Choose up to 3 options

:question: What do you think is Odile worth Limit Breaking ?

  • Yes, but only once
  • Yes, twice
  • No
0 voters

:question: If you would emblem Odile then which Emblem Path would you select ?

  • Sword path
    (Selecting Attack talent nodes when possible)
  • Shield path
    (Selecting Health and Shield talent nodes when possible)
0 voters

:question: What do you think about the artwork ?

  • Amazing
  • Refreshingly new
  • It’s ok
  • It could be better
  • Very bad
0 voters
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This is the one to want.

This is the one I want.

… But with my drought lately, I should just give up hope now :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Edit: They removed the mana gen :cry:

Edit #2:

Ummm… Wtf?! I only did 15 pulls, what are the odds???

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Only, I’m not that excited, cuz the mana gen is gone. You take such a hit with these SS - not being able to use any buffs - that the effects that they offer really have to make up for that, and be something. And without that mana gen, I fear this SS just isn’t worth [that].

sigh but I hope I’m wrong

Around 50 pulls total, and I actually collected the entire set! That’s only ever happened to me once before (last Morlovia)… amazing.

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Ofc, a secret part of me wanted Christine Daae, Odette and Firmin slightly more, but maybe I’ll be delighted with this result (in time) instead. It’s always hard to know with new heroes vs established, esp as I haven’t had time to cover quite yet :crazy_face: Least this makes up for some of my bad luck recently! Let’s hope next week will cover the rest… contest of Elements and Astral Elves, I’m looking at you!

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Timothy compared to this:

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Each of the dancers will attack? So 4 times status effect damage for the next 4 turns…Is this going to be Luna slow again because screw that

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Eww, they removed the mana gen :face_vomiting:

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I really wanted her, but they removed the mana re-gen? ughh that is such a shame. But yes, this is a Luna/Darkfeather sort of hero mechanic. Should be great since it is all allies and damage dealing is 100% certain, not at 50% like Darkfeather.

Damaged has been reduced from 35% to 25%
20% Mana regen removed.

Still a great hero, but will not be the upset she could otherwise have been.

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The OP is adjusted with the changes.
Polls are now enabled.

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Even then darkfeather is way superior imo. Using odile or even odette means you won’t be able to buff anything on yourself, which DF doesn’t have that limitation. He has the versatility to use others buffs alongside his extra damage which makes him so much more versatile

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Well, not sure how impressed I am since the mana gen was removed but I did 48 pulls and nothing but 3 & 4*, took a break bought the cheapie ws deal and tried again. She appeared on pull # 8

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Good luck everyone!

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I am with you, and the same time I am not.
I have Odette as well, and the mechanic of removing status effects is quite nifty and the damage being certain is different. Healing amount will of course wear off during a battle, but while the mechanic is the same, the heroes are quite different. I use Odette, DF and Luna in different situations and teams, and while similar, the actual effect is quite different. I really wanted Odile also to pair with Firmin, as the damage increase also increase the heal. So for me, the difference would be worth levelling her for.

But DF is still one of the best heroes of the game, not taking that away from you or the conversation. Wither and growth mechanic is a must-have for anyone, almost regardless of which hero.

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After just facing a team that already had a 2lb Odile, congrats to all that get her. She is annoying to face. Since the hit is on every turn end and not dependent on a special going off, the damage can add up quick, especially if paired with a defense down hero. Lost all 3 matches I faced her on

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My issue with Odette,Siegfried and Odile is that they are no real counter to all the Chang‘e and Timius you find in all the defenses despite the wording on their specials suggesting something different.

Their special says that they will remove all existing status effects when their dance effect is added. However since Chang‘e aliment prevents any new status effects on ennemies and allies or Timius makes you immune to new status effects, Odette/Siegfried/Odile do zero,nada.

Wish they had rewritten their special and the priority order to:

• Removes all existing status effects on allies except the caster
• Cast Dance of the Black Swan/Heron/Swan

Like that they would be more desirable among top players. They are only good in top wars if you can fire them before the defense fired and how often does that happen :joy:

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There is no protection for Odile though. With odette its her super dodge, siegfried with DR. All her dancers have is overboost with no means of other protection. Yeah she resists status effects, every dance out there has that. If you can’t apply ailments on them, just hit them hard enough with your buffed heroes
They are literally sitting swans over there against hitters. Heroes like frond can just destroy them immediately. This is why I think the 20% mana gen is so important to her dance because it’s should be used as a compensation for her lack of additional protection, and they removed it…
But this is all hypothetical, she has her pluses and minuses that I’m not sure about how she works on defence

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is the attacking speed worse than luna?

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Timius yes, but this is still not going to help against chang e as the affected can’t cast any status effects.

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I think Luna is slower. I would say it seemed to be about the same speed as Waterpipe’s minions.

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Agree. Without the additional protection, she is more exposed. Now time will tell what the verdict will be across the meta.

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Just faced her at 4/89 and let me tell you that she’s far from being bad. Infact she’s a royal pain in the…
My TP is 6600ish, cups sit at around 3300-3500 and even though the opponent was reduced to 4 heroes in the second round, mine at full health, she eventually destroyed my team bit by bit. ALL opponents where hitting for around 400 damage at the end of every round, Luna is a teddy bear compared to her mechanic lol. ANNOYING? HELL YEAH!! :rofl::rofl:

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faced her few times today and surprised how useless she was :smiley: this mana cut turned her into just an average hero