🧪 Early Information on Legendary Troops [Part of The Beta Beat v63]

[Zakuha]

@BobTheSnark

if I play this game long enough, and especially if there’s ever a “Legendary Troop Token” earnable, maybe?

Someday…like…the already announced/promised Aether-Crystal-Quest

[BlackZed]

Or maybe 0.1% chance with that Recruits II quest ?

Hopefully Zynga will add that Legendary Troop Token (if Zynga does go ahead with it) to War Chest Loot and Rare Titan Chest, probably at 0.1% chance. lol

[tsoukalos]

if they wana drive more common folk to quit, guess they’re succeeding. i’ll just go back to playing hay day…

[REMEMBER]

Hi @BlackZed , take a look at troop TP calculation here, combined with @Ruskin505 data we can see 5* troop has base TP at 50 and +1 per level (4* troop starts at 40 TP and +1 per level, 3* starts at 30 TP and +1 per level).

How to calculate team power, including troops!

Guided spreadsheet calculated including troop team power by level [IMG-20190905-WA0012] [IMG-20190905-WA0013]

I saw some pictures of LB2 heroes with level 50 troop and with the right class, they have about 2k defense and 3.5k HP.

[BlackZed]

@REMEMBER

I saw some pictures of LB2 heroes with level 50 troop and with the right class, they have about 2k defense and 3.5k HP.

Max HP reduction plus EDD/DD or Goblin Wither: Defence, will be useful then. Zynga pushed up the current stratosphere even higher.

[Ruskin505]

One benefit to new troops and power creep in general is it makes current PvE contest easier. The thing that specififcally comes to mind is farming. We would all like farming to be faster, and new troops is one way to speed that up.

[SamwiseTheBrave]

Is the troop leveling 5x faster for legendary troops only or for all troops?

[SamwiseTheBrave]

For the record, this idea is even worse than second limit break was. Just a God-awful idea.

[2puttshaqur]

So… what is the xp for the legendary troops by level?

[Ruskin505]

Question 1:

@SamwiseTheBrave

Is the troop leveling 5x faster for legendary troops only or for all troops?

@Ruskin505

My level 29 mana troop using a 2 star troop in live game costs 165K food and gives 90xp
In beta it costs 67K ham and gives 205 xp

@Ruskin505

xp of a feeder is the same on both current troops and legendary troops

Question 2:

@2puttshaqur

So… what is the xp for the legendary troops by level?

@PlayForFun

Majestic Minotaur (Barbarian) Troop progress

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Level	Attack	Defense	Health	Mana Generation	XP / Level	Food cost / troop	Iron cost / troop	Change
1	11%	8%	15%	5%	200	3500	3500	-
2	11%	9%	15%	5%	250	5500	5500	+1% Defense
3	13%	9%	15%	5%	300	7500	7500	+2% Attack
4	13%	9%	17%	5%	350	9500	9500	+2% Health
5	13%	10%	17%	5%	400	11500	11500	+1% Defense
6	13%	11%	17%	5%	450	13500	13500	+1% Defense
7	15%	11%	17%	5%	500	15500	15500	+2% Attack
8	15%	11%	19%	5%	550	17500	17500	+2% Health
9	15%	12%	19%	5%	600	19500	19500	+1% Defense
10	17%	12%	19%	5%	650	21500	21500	+2% Attack
11	17%	13%	19%	5%	700	23500	23500	+1% Defense
12	17%	13%	21%	5%	750	25500	25500	+2% Health
13	17%	14%	21%	5%	800	27500	27500	+1% Defense
14	19%	14%	21%	5%	850	29500	29500	+2% Attack
15	19%	15%	21%	5%	900	31500	31500	+1% Defense
16	19%	15%	23%	5%	950	33500	33500	+2% Health
17	21%	15%	23%	5%	1000	35500	35500	+2% Attack
18	21%	16%	23%	5%	1050	37500	37500	+1% Defense
19	21%	16%	25%	5%	1100	39500	39500	+2% Health
20	21%	17%	25%	5%	1150	41500	41500	+1% Defense
21	23%	17%	25%	5%	1200	43500	43500	+2% Attack
22	23%	18%	25%	5%	1250	45500	45500	+1% Defense
23	23%	18%	27%	5%	1300	47500	47500	+2% Health
24	23%	18%	27%	10%	1350	49500	49500	+5 Mana Generation
25	25%	18%	27%	10%	1400	51500	51500	+2% Attack
26	25%	19%	27%	10%	1450	53500	53500	+1% Defense
27	25%	20%	27%	10%	1500	55500	55500	+1% Defense
28	27%	20%	27%	10%	1550	57500	57500	+2% Attack
29	27%	20%	29%	10%	1600	59500	59500	+2% Health
30	27%	21%	29%	10%	1650	61500	61500	+1% Defense
31	29%	21%	29%	10%	1700	63500	63500	+2% Attack
32	29%	22%	29%	10%	1750	65500	65500	+1% Defense
33	29%	22%	31%	10%	1800	67500	67500	+2% Health
34	29%	23%	31%	10%	1850	69500	69500	+1% Defense
35	31%	23%	31%	10%	1900	71500	71500	+2% Attack
36	31%	23%	33%	10%	1950	73500	73500	+2% Health
37	31%	24%	33%	10%	2000	75500	75500	+1% Defense
38	33%	24%	33%	10%	2050	77500	77500	+2% Attack
39	33%	25%	33%	10%	2100	79500	79500	+1% Defense
40	33%	25%	35%	10%	2150	81500	81500	+2% Health
41	33%	26%	35%	10%	2200	83500	83500	+1% Defense
42	35%	26%	35%	10%	2250	85500	85500	+2% Attack
43	35%	27%	35%	10%	2300	87500	87500	+1% Defense
44	35%	27%	37%	10%	2350	89500	89500	+2% Health
45	37%	27%	37%	10%	2400	91500	91500	+2% Health
46	37%	28%	37%	10%	2450	93500	93500	+1% Defense
47	37%	29%	37%	10%	2500	95500	95500	+1% Defense
48	37%	29%	39%	10%	2550	97500	97500	+2% Health
49	37%	29%	39%	15%	2600	99500	99500	+5% Mana Generation
50	39%	29%	39%	15%	-	-	-	+2% Attack

[PlayForFun]

I have just attached @birksg 's guide about the 5* troop progression level by level to the OP.

Thx @birksg for collecting this information and creating this guide !

[Kenzo]

Sorry if missed this info somewhere, but is there any difference between the bonus or passive with a primary or secondary class of a troop? Appears to be the same, so what’s the advantage of the primary class?

[PlayForFun]

A specific Troops gives the same “passive” to heroes of it’s primary and secondary classes.

But there are two type of Legendary troops which can be used with extra benefits on the same two classes.
The passives for these two troops can be different.

Example:

@PlayForFun

Troop Name	Main Class	Secondary Class	Attack	Defense	Health	Passive
Unwavering Cleric	Cleric	Fighter	+29%	+39%	+39%	Extra healing
Unstoppable Fighter	Fighter	Cleric	+35%	+33%	+39%	Health Recovery on Buff Received

[2puttshaqur]

So if my math is correct… if you are taking a level 1 troop to level 26 with the new troop xp values, then converting to a 5*, and then taking that 5* to level 50, you need the following xp

45300+68600=113900 which is:
1036 1* troops feeders
556 2* troop feeders
256 3* troop feeders

[ProfessorPenguin]

@2puttshaqur

you need the following xp

45300+68600=113900 which is:
1036 1* troops feeders
556 2* troop feeders
256 3* troop feeders

For comparison with current live troop xp values, getting a troop to lvl 30 requires

63,800 xp, which would be
1595 1* troops fed -or-
709 2* troops fed -or-
319 3* troops fed

Assuming my math is right, and the math of @2puttshaqur is right, that means it will take less feeders to get from a new 4* troop to maxed 5* troop than it currently takes to get to lvl 30 on a 4* troop

Edit - I don’t know if my my xp values are correct. The chart I’m looking at says 52325 xp for lvl 26, 63800xp for lvl 29

Edit 2 - the valued stated seem to be for lvl 27 and lvl 30, actually… But still have a different value than 2putt for lvl 26 at 48750. Instead of doing math for lvl 29 using correct xp values, changed it to reflect lvl 30

Chart referenced

@Fasp3000

[2puttshaqur]

Just a personal comparison of what I have in my troop reserve… and ham and iron…

In ice I have 407 1*, 213 2*, and 29 3* for a total of 101340 in xp feeders

In Fire (skipping the counts), I have 72115 xp

In Dark, I have 100165 in xp

In Holy I have 114,695 in xp

In Nature, I have 167280 in xp

I have 219 million ham in storage @ tc 20 and in the alchemy lab…

In iron I have 43 million in iron in Hero academy troop creations and in iron crates.

I have a feeling iron is going to be my bottleneck… which is funny… because we all wanted iron to be useful again after all building are complete… and so we are getting what we asked for.

I’m definitely not trading in my already leveled level 29 mana Styx and Magic troops… especially styx and magic… Maybe mana in some distant future, but right now… it looks like some of these level 8 crit troops are going to be queen for the day before they are sent to the blender.

[Akumasama]

Question regarding future raid tournaments:

Do we know if the rules will be adjusted for 5* Tournaments to allow legendary troops?

Currently the rules state: troops up to epic troops allowed.

If they do not change that, one would be required to keep enough leveled epic troops…

[PlayForFun]

Staff is still working on the details about where these Legendary troops will be usable. (Tournaments, Challenge Events, Kalevala, etc…)

[Elioty33]

Personally I think the right way to do it would be to not change any of the current troop rarity restrictions. So legendary troops should be usable in raids, hero league, map seasons, and quests without troop restrictions (so basically everything on the quest screen except Challenge Events and Kalevala).

[2puttshaqur]

I’m the other side of the coin on this. I personally hate 3/4* raid tournaments where I can’t use my mana troops that i worked so hard on… I hate that the defense is playing at very fast speed and I’m playing at 7 tiles fast speed.

I’d prefer… If you did the work on the troops… They are available everywhere.