Barry Farmz Here -- Comprehensive data driven farming guide for Season 3, Season 2, Season 1, Elemental Chests, Atlantis Rises, Missions, and more

Season 2 5-2N works well

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What is the level with the most monsters to farm in Valhalla forever?

I use 9-8

20 valhallas

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Looks like 9-8N is probably the best way to go.

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Heā€™s his info tends to be out of date.

I think itā€™s pretty safe to say this project is over at this point

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Avatars and Elemental Chests

Basically the spreadsheet is just for completing avatar missions / filling Rare Wanted elemental mission chests at this point

Loot formula

You and @BarryWuzHere solved the loot roll / recruit drop equation ( small chests in the upper left hand corner ) a long time ago ( see notes )

So easy to calculate from a very small sample

Map Season monthly event

With AR, VF, and future UD, only provinces 1 to 9 are really important ( see notes )

Food / Iron

I cannot remember if Food / Iron equation was ever nailed down

Notes

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Recruits

(Recruits, Atlantis rising, VIP pass loot tickets and It's Raining Loot Tickets!- Coin rate is unknown- Updated with best Kits/ Backpack stages - Average 100 dragons per 6,000 WE - #9 by gregschen)

AR +50% Recruits

(Recruits, Atlantis rising, VIP pass loot tickets and It's Raining Loot Tickets!- Coin rate is unknown- Updated with best Kits/ Backpack stages - Average 100 dragons per 6,000 WE - #13 by Gryphonknight)

Loot rolls

(Interesting Discovery re: Map Loot- Loot rolls for ascension items and ingredients - #3 by gregschen)

VF loot rolls

Province 1 to 9 important

(Valhalla Forever - Optimum Levels for Farming - #54 by Gryphonknight)

Small chests

([Bug] Mine Iron quest loot or Small Treasure Chest from level completion - #19 by WillC23)

Rare, Wanted elemental mission chests

([Repost] Rare chest back to back and 2 rare chests at once or any chest can be rare [Reposted for smartphone users and future reference])

FIN

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Not exactly, but I recall Barry being pretty confident that it averaged out to the same amount in each level throughout any given province/difficulty.

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Hi there,

It seems that the element chest is broken againā€¦
Any solution ?

agree - Iā€™ve noticed similar

Someone in my alliance posted a summary sheet that includes best levels to farm in S3 (as well as S2 ā€“ itā€™s here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818589826172977213/852639984103849984/image0.png). At the bottom was a reference to this thread which I have seen before, so I was like, cool, they got S3 in the farmz sheet. However I come here and nope, I donā€™t see it in the sheet in the first post when I click it. So has the data been compiled for Valhalla Forever? And if so, could someone point to correct linkā€¦

Thanks

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is this spread sheet still being updated?

It is not. See here for the most current asc/craft mat farming info, at least.

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This isnā€™t the first time Iā€™ve said this but I think it should be said in a couple of spots. There are some great projects that seems to have fallen behind. Barry Farmz Here spreadsheet, Anchorā€™s Hero Grading, and POIs Heroes List are some of a great tools that need support. It would be nice to see SG do something to support these projects. Itā€™s the community that goes the extra mile and everyone benefits including the multi million dollar SG. Having a few more community regulars/moderators able to edit them so that the burden is not on one person, and that they donā€™t die if those players move on. It would be great to see both spreadsheets into a forum version and this list into a spreadsheet version. For those spearheading the work for the community, we thank you for your efforts but please donā€™t shy from asking for help, burnout is real and Iā€™m sure there are others who would love to help. It would be nice for the authors of threads to be able to allow other users the ability to edit or put has the new author of the thread to help with updating, Iā€™m sure they have saved master copies that they can reload if something goes awry.

I donā€™t think thatā€™s really realistic, sadly. Barry hasnā€™t worked on this in over a year. Maybe two. And itā€™s so deep that I donā€™t think itā€™s possible for someone else to pick it up and run with it. (There was one other guy who had been continuing to collect data for a while, and who knew how the spreadsheets worked behind the scenes, but he quit a few months ago too.)

I canā€™t speak to Anchorā€™s or POIā€™s stuff. Except Anchorā€™s grades are largely trash, imo.

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Hobby

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I agree

It is a hobby

Spend depth

Why?

ZS could solve this many, many ways

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Fully transparent loot tool tips

Logical loot progression

Add a search function to summons and display inactive summons ( example display Black Friday summons, and let us search it, but not summon from it )

All summoned heroes are summoned at maximum level

Allow heroes to be reduced to X* 1.1 with full refund of Hero XP ( Trainer heroes or Hero XP bundle ), Food, Iron, Emblems and Aethers

Allow players to swap levels of two heroes ( Example Obakan 5^85+20 could swap with Panther 5* 1.1 resulting in Obakan 5* 1.1 and Panther 5^85+20 )

But ZS wants it to be confusing

The same reason Classic heroes are included in most summons, heroes are summoned at X* 1.1, summons are available for a limited time, loot profession is weird, tool tips are vague, non farmable 3* / 4* ascension items are rare, etc.

SGG is a small team and have to keep ahead of players

Notes

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Spend depth

FIN

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The elemental chest data is broken again.

I had my own copy to make sure that people screwing around with the rows in the info tab wouldnā€™t mess it up. The problem, however, is in the S3 summary sheet. Right off the bat there are invalid formulas - who will make edits to a sheet like this that break formulas in the LIVE version, rather than a dev/beta version?!

The problem with this project is not that nobody continues to maintain itā€¦ itā€™s that the wrong people were apparently granted access to the sheetsā€¦ people who are irresponsible about their edits and donā€™t know WFT they are doing. I am sorry but I am livid when it comes to crap-tastic ā€œvolunteersā€ who break code. That is why, for example, I donā€™t work on this project directly, because the amount of learning Iā€™d need to do to be qualified is just too much.

But I will take a stab anyway: The S3 data sheet ā€œBFH: Chests and S3 Missionsā€ has a limit on the number of rows in sheet ā€œPOV Countsā€. Because of that, the array import of some stuff that goes into a quotient isnā€™t importing. And because of that, there is division by zero errors. And because of that, all the resulting computations are fragged. So basically somebody has to figure out if there is a reason that ā€œPOV Countsā€ was limited to 279 rows, or was it just arbitrary. My guess is that somewhere there is a coded row count that will get messed up if rows are simply added.

Soā€¦ if you want to get this project back on track, it becomes necessary to figure out where these hard coded limits are, and put protections in place to prevent eager-beaver data adders from blowing through them.

Is there a place where devs discuss this project other than this forum?

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Look, I donā€™t like them either, but what does the Washington Football Team have to do with any of this? Also, theyā€™re calling themselves the Washington Commanders now, FYI.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Soā€¦ this was a player-driven project. The devs were never involved. But as far as I know, nobody who had edit access is still an active player.

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And all it takes to transform functionality from choice profanity to a conversation of the-team-formerly-known-as-Redskins is two transposed letters. So you see my point - nobody should be working in the live sheets until the effect of their edits are reviewed and debugged if necessary.

If none of the folks with edit access still are involved with the game, then how is it that the sheets keep changing? Is it possible that there are scripts which are doing this automatically? That would really be something impressive and would change my outlook considerably.