20 characters etc etc I normally dispel, then take out the ones the dispel worked with then ghost and pick them off one by one. If C Kad is the last one standing then it becomes v easy
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Still, the problem specified in the title stays. Anti dodge heroes are needed. Someone had a good idea earlier, A dispelling Russel would solve the dodge problem quite effective. A dispeller that never misses would end c.Kadiās edge. Maybe weāll get one, all strong specials get efficient counters after a while, to make room for new ones. Itās company policy.
Itās those that I fail to dispell that worry meā¦ I usually dislike it when the only thing I can do is watch as they get charged and castā¦
Just need to work on the timing, war equaliser helps a lot
Like I said, fretting about cKad more than Frigg indicates to me that some may be kind of stuck in a brute force mindset and are not willing or possibly able to adjust on the fly and take advantage of cKads low damage relative to Frigg
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Flip C Kad to your advantage.
- Bring Skadi
- Let C Kad fire
- Throw specials at the defense and either kill/hurt them or spawn minions.
- When the dodge buff expires crush them with Skadi.
- Watch them melt away
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Iām even more convinced that you just need help with how to play after reading this.
Gullinbursti is an incredible counter. Learn how to make him work and heās one of the best heros in the game. One of my best teams ā against just about any lineup, but especially taunters, reflectors, and dodgers:
Gullinbursti+20
Garnet+20
Gullinbursti+20 (LB)
C-Marjana+20
Gullinbursti+20
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Iām just here to give a shout out to my lady Mistā¦ preventing buffs since season 3, no dodge for you
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Thanks for the helpful insightā¦ Iāll make sure Iāll take my three maxed + 20 Gulis from now on whenever I face c.Kadiā¦ Oh, wait, I donāt have Guli (Iāve already said that, if you payied any attention) but Iāll make sure Iāll learn how to play. Thanks again, apreciate your useful insight, it helps a lot! While for someone with three maxed Gulis, c.Kadi is no threat, for most players she is dreadful. Read the forum a bit, there are several threads about how bad dodge affects gameplay for regular players. Donāt start with the presumption that everyone has three Gulis.
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Dude, you said Gullinbursti wasnāt a counter to C-Kadilen. Iām showing a team that is a perfect counter.
Your lack of counters doesnāt mean they donāt exist. It also doesnāt mean they arenāt actually counters.
I didnāt assume anything but people here have shown over and over that your posts are full of inaccurate statements. She doesnāt dominate defenses at the highest level. She has many counters. And she can be waited out if you know what you are doing.
You simply want people to say how right you are and not challenge your statementsā¦but you arenāt right and you have made many incorrect statementsā¦
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Well, ādudeā, so did you. For starters, you presumed I needed help learning to how playā¦ how cute! Then you assumed I need to learn how to use Guli, which I donāt haveā¦ then you apreciate Guli as a counter to dodgeā¦ ok, thatās your problem, but Guli does nothing to prevent or remove dodge. Your team will still have to deal with dodge after Guli casted, just like before he did. Dodge stays on, whereās the counter? Guli is unaffected by dodge, thatās fine, but as far as countering itā¦ he does nothing. Of course, if you brought 5 Guli + 20, you wonāt need to worry about dodge and you may considered it countered, but as long as dodge is on, your c Marja will miss about half the times, regardless of what Guli does. Whereās Guliās counter then? Iām not debating about c.Kadi strengths or weaknesess, Iām fighting my fair share of her every day and have means to beat her. Still Iām not so blind to minimize her importance on the battlefield.
He can be dodged too.
You need a LOT of help in how to play against C-Kadilen if you think sheās overpowered or the game lacks counters to her ability.
You clearly donāt understand what ācounterā means. In your world, counters only seem to count ifā¦
- they are 100% perfect before and after C-Kadilen fires
And
- you have them
Which is why WAITING is a counter. Team structure allows me to wait. It has been suggested to you before that you build the team to give you that option and you dismissed it out of handā¦more proof that you need help in how to fight C-Kadilenā¦
At this point, I have to conclude that you are being willfully difficult and donāt actually want to learn. You want to be told you are rightā¦when so many have pointed out your numerous errors.
Iām done trying to helpā¦
First, dodge is dodgeā¦it should remain dodge both in context and action! Yeah its a dispellable buff with % chance to occurā¦not game breaking.
Countersā¦buff removal, dispellers though not 100% effective but still work, dispellable buff removalsā¦buff steallers( Hater, Loki etc ), buff preventing ( Malosi, Mist,C-Sab etc ), heroes that punishes heroes with buffs, wait out the turns using sturdy attacking heroes with healers, attack with high tiled damage in mind etc.
Apart from readily available dispellers, The rest of the counters may be behind pay wall but so is C-Kad!
If a new dodge preventing hero is introduced today, it will still be behind pay wall, not everyone would have it! So what else?
If played strategically she dies off quickly leaving vaccum for tile ghosting!
It seems some players prefer easy counters instead of employing creativity, that makes the game challenging and fun!
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For stating the obvious? Neahā¦ I couldnāt care less about that. I donāt need your aproval to have an oppinion, even if you seem to believe I do. My oppinion is c.Kadilen is a signifficant hero because of her skill. Iād bet there are at least 25 teams inside top100, at any given moment, that use c.Kadilen for very good reasons (dodge). Her presence on top defense teams inside top 100 is a fact and is not due to her sturdiness or high damage but to a simple little detail called dodge, that greatly changes the rules of engagement. Most special skills have a 50% chance to go to waste against dodge. Thatās huge as long as you donāt have certain key heroes. And your solution to the problem is a team of Gulisā¦ How many players do you think have three maxed and emblemed Gulis? Get your feet back on the ground man! Take a step back and realize that most players donāt have the means you have for dealing with c.Kadi. If you really want to help, come with solutions a bit more realistic that 3 x Guli+20ā¦
Weāve already come up with loads, buff blockers, dispellers and playing patiently and strategically. Sheās good but sheās not impossible.
What we really need is Anti-dodge dodging heroes.
But then of course we will need an Anti-dodge dodge anti-dodger.
Which natural means we will need something that dodges the anti-dodger that dodged the Anti-dodge from the initial dodge in the first place.
Come on SGG! Time to sort this out and get me the solution I need to a problem I could have stopped at the start if only I paid any attention to the numerous ways already to deal with this.
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Agreed. Sheās a very good hero. But sheās nowhere close to breaking the game as has been heavily implied here.
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Not impossible, thatās true. And I do have one of the best counters available, Malosi. I also have a vrey capable red mono, able to kill c.Kadi+20 in three tiles. Itās not about me, I can easily deal with her. But if she gets to cast before Malosi, or before I get three reds under her, things getā¦ how do I put itā¦ interesting. In my experience waiting for dodge to go away usually ends bad.