Alliance Wars Matchmaking (Discussion & Developer Response) MASTER

We were matched last weekend with a top 100 alliance. We range around 160ish. Anyways, our war score changed by 4,000 points during the war. Friday it went up 4k for unknown reason. We were then matched with a top alliance. Then our war score drops by 4k during the war and finally goes back up during the last 12 hours of war. There were no changes in players. No one was even logged in on Sunday morning when we jumped up 4k for the second time. How can the war score go up and down during a war with no changes in players? Is there some other variable or is this a know bug/issue? I noticed it change about every 12 hours. I opened a case and they suggested I post here.

@General_Confusion thoughts? ^^^


Just to add clarification, the alliance we were up against yesterday is currently ranked #19. So to say top 100 doesn’t do it justice. Also, we are 180+. I know these scores change a lot, but there was a horrible difference between us and our opponent. They even acknowledged the mismatch in their banner at the end of the war.

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Not really, it smacks of a bug. I will say this:

The war score doesn’t always update instantly, so someone could have been on, opted out and the timing was such that the score updated after the left. But if nobody had been on for hours, that isn’t the answer.

Also 4k, while not a huge percent of a top 200 war score (maybe 6-8% I would guess) it is more impact than one person should have. So again, that wouldn’t see to support a 1 person opting in and out theory.


Thanks. That was my read too. It looked inexplicable but I know you’ve tracked it a lot more carefully than I.


@LisaD, I’d recommend you submit a support ticket and give them the details you gave us (including times and timezone if you can).

Here’s how to submit a ticket:


I have a support case open but I’ll be sure to include all the details.

I really appreciate the replies.

Thank you!


I’ll ping SG and let them know that we can’t explain what we are seeing.

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Actually the emblem system allows my max 4* heroes to be more powerful than my 3/70 5* because the 5* can’t use emblems until they hit 80. It’s a little frustrating when my opponents are all 5* 4/80 with over 4k TP, but with decent boards, I can still take out most 4k+ teams with 2 war flags… even 1 war flag if I get an exceptionally good board.

And another close one lol:


Nice win :smiley:

I’ve had a few nailbiters like that. Though none at such a high score level. Looks like both teams reset more than once there. Good fighting on both sides, congrats. :+1:

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Both sides playing with 28, we ran blue tanks they ran purple.
We hit their lowest 12 3 times then reset twice and took out as many as we could.
They hit us hard early and reset us 3x.

What a joke.

Our opponents have 20 teams above 3800, most above 4K.

We have 7 teams above 3800.

What are the war scores?


Pretty darn close. How many of your alliance members participate in wars? If not all, maybe not all the 4000+ of your opponents do either. They may also be hero top-heavy. Really strong top 5 but weak bench.

Only one is opted out for vacation. War Score does not help fight. 2/3 of their teams are higher defense than all but 7 of us. Very unfair.

If they are top-heavy (as indicated by the war score) then they should have difficulty flipping you too once first flags used.

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I personally think the system is broken. We lost to opponents who has was way more unused flags. Once time we had flipped the opponents board to put us in a better position as well as using more flags than the opponent. In the end we still lost. This made me lead to believe either their matchmaking is terrible or their scoring flawed.

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I’ve faced many teams with super high defense teams, wondering how my team got matched up against theirs. Usually at the conclusion of the war, the reason is clear. 1 or 2 of their members didn’t use any flags at all. The ones who did use flags had 2, maybe 3 good teams, then dropped down to single digit scores in the second wave. Defensive power only tells half the story.

Funny, I used to complain about our opponents all having strong defense teams. As I watch my smaller teammates grow and progress, I realize that our own team probably looks pretty terrifying to some of our opponents now :smile:

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