Yes, I also was not sold on him but when I ended on bad end of his special I started to be intrigued (while keeping in mind he’ll do better on offense). Thinking about ascending him ahead of GM.
Hello brother from another mother
While true of most heroes, Zagrog really demonstrates the importance of synergy. If you have good defense down, especially elemental defense down, his disadvantage is immaterial.
Unfortunately, red is chock full of heroes with attack boosts. Although certainly less so among 5* heroes.
anybody knows whether zagrog bypasses gargoyle stoneskin?
Yes he does i tried it during sanctuary.
I got the rabbit too . Renamed him Jack O Hate
I finally got Zagrog up to +8 and with the appropriate mana troop to charge in 9 tiles (yes, I know he only needs level 17 - but I was using the level 23 for Ferant before getting Ferant up to +20 so he would only need the level 11).
Zagrog is a good upgrade over both Yang Mai and Santa on my team. Still settling whom I would bring when mono-ing: currently Boldtusk, Ferant, C-Marjana, Zagrog, and the last slot I’m deciding on Yang Mai for the mana link or C-Marjana to just hit hard. With everyone here charging in 9 tiles or fewer, Yang Mai’s element link becomes less critical, so 2 C-Marj might be good
Sadly, Zagrog does not benefit from Boldy’s attack up, but he is my only red healer. and the rest benefit. besides, Zagrog still hits hard without the boost.
I am not lucky enough to have even one C. Marjana, but I do have Yang Mai. I can tell you that the nerf to her element link was disappointing, but given my limited options in red, it does still come into play. I frequently choose her over regular Marjana or JF in my red stack (with BT, Falcon, Gormek, and Kong), unless I need to reverse a fast defense-down hero like Morel or Frigg. With Zagrog, Ferant, and Boldtusk all at average speed, you may see enough benefit from Yang Mai’s element link to justify her over a second C. Marjana. Maybe.
Why not regular Gormek? If you have costume bonuses even better. He will give you regular def down, which stacks with cMarjana. Assuming costume bonus and right mana troop you can get hin to fire in 9. So, you would fire Gormek, cMarjana, and then Zagrog which will pretty much get rid of half the defence (assuming some red tiles weakened them while charging). A foregone conclusion if you are running mono.
Edit: I run 3 stacked against green tanks and that is my A team for that.
thanks @Noble_Weasel , I was thinking too that Yang Mai’s element link, while nerfed, may charge my heroes at critical moments
@Quinn3 I thought about it, good suggestion - I will play around - maybe it will depend on the strength of the defenses I fight. I do have the costume, so he will charge in 9 tiles and is a bit sturdier.
I also think the Gormek suggestion is good. As noted above, he’s part of my red mono team. Mine is completely maxed - LB and +c20. I regularly raid into the 2800+ cup range, and even when my team is getting slaughtered, he’s usually one of the last to die. Dude is just a giant mountain of meat.
C Boldtusk stares at Zagrog serving him dish after dish of attack boost only to have every masterpiece returned to the kitchen . Brutal that his attack can’t be boosted but the damage to nearby enemies makes up for that .
oh yeah, Gormek can absorb stuff for sure… hmmm… and Zagrog is a Rogue, so… along with Boldy the fighter… maybe RNG will be on my side though among these 3, Gormek won’t even really need RNG, he can just absorb so much damage
You could try bold in costume, larger healer lower attack up so Zagrog doesn’t miss as much of the special.
thanks, also an option… though C-Marj will lose out on some attack boost. offsetby the bigger heal though
i’m looking forward to trying all these configurations - thanks @Draerius and others for all the suggestions!
Zagrog is the HotM that makes me really wonder why I didn’t level him… everytime I face him in raids he is a real threat for my team, even with the strong colour against him he hits like a truck fully emblemed. Great guy and certainly next in line to level after Ilmarinen.
Better late than never! And he does hit surprisingly hard enjoy your future maxed Zagrog!
Really good hero . Hits really hard for no attack boost . Have him and Arfanias at 8 talent level . Zagrog will take the rest of emblems as he is better than Arfanias .
You think so? I have both but Zagrog is on my defense and Arfanias is not. I am unsure of how to split up my rogue emblems. I thought Zagrog should get more, but I created a poll on Reddit and more people voted for Arfanias. Granted it wasn’t that big of a difference between the two.
Zags with Sun Shangxiang and Guardian Falcon are pretty good together