May 2024 Balance Update - Discussion

[Petri]

Please share your thoughts on the latest balance changes!

Announcement:

May 2024 Balance Update - Details & Release Notes

Welcome to the May 2024 Balance Update! [Balance_Update_May_2024] Note: This balance update will go live on 2024-05-14T10:00:00Z (UTC). Full details of the changes are as follows: Gargoyle family Softskin updated Softskin now also reduces damage by -90% and resists all status ailments OLD: Softskin resists mana reductions. NEW: Softskin reduces damage received by the Hero by -90%, and they resist all status ailments and mana reductions. Affected heroes: Garten Pophit Garten Special …

Make sure to also check out our FAQ on hero balancing:

Hero Balancing FAQ

Why do you balance Heroes after release? Ideally, all new Heroes would be perfectly balanced before they are released. We carefully test them internally, as well as in the Beta program. Unfortunately, some Heroes can still be too powerful either by themselves or combined with another Hero. The only way to know for sure is based on the real data from the game. We understand that adjustments to the Heroes in the live game may be disappointing. However, we are confident that these changes are nec…

[Oxide]

The already OP Gargoyles and Owl buffed ???

What are they on, and can I have some ?

[Ship]

Why did they remove the counter attack for Garten? That’s his whole thing! I’ve nearly had it with these devs.

[marki]

i cant belive they destroy Garten, my fav hero , dont need another hiller

[Ship]

He was my guy for the toons. Damnit

[Ufeel]

@Tidyup unfortunately, as we feared, no buff for Magaret

[JanG]

@EmpiresPuzzles

Owl family

So… Owls get an update… And what about Fulvia??? Ths is the one people have been begging for an improvement… And all she gets is a passive?

The passive is nice and is very useful against Nautica. But no other balance update for Fulvia…

@EmpiresPuzzles

Gargoyle family

Softskin updated

• Softskin now also reduces damage by -90% and resists all status ailments
  • OLD: Softskin resists mana reductions.
  • NEW: Softskin reduces damage received by the Hero by -90%, and they resist all status ailments and mana reductions.

Not necessary… they were already strong enough. Now, the rest of the team just becomes near-to-impossible to kill.

@EmpiresPuzzles

Garten

• Special Skill updated
  • Removed counterattack effect

Good!

[Ship]

@JanG

Good

Only good if you don’t have him!

[jake-of-all-trades]

Atlantis costume bonus PLEASE!!!

[Sternman]

Owls to take on Nautica now?

Pophit a little bit better.

Garten completely changed (yes, now heals directly instead of via the riposte but completely different threat now). The softskin to all allies is a benefit, although not clear this improves Garten. Personally believe it will make it slightly easier to beat teams with Garten but battles will be even more annoyingly slow.

RANT: The intentional slowing of the game is so insanely annoying (started with Luna, now Odile, etc) and it grates that they now sell “speedy play”. Intentionally making the player experience worse in order to sell something is a clear indication that they no longer care about the future. Fear the Garten adjustment will slow the game too…

[Soiden]

Suzuna update from healing 200 HP per turn to 250 HP per turn. OK

[JanG]

@Ship

Only good if you don’t have him!

True… The counter attack was just too much on this one. Could just have been reduced to e.g. 80% as well for me, but the 115% was too high.

[Ship]

Yes it does seem that way. They aren’t concerned with our experience. It’s less fun now, more enraging and they just seem to not care in the slightest

[Star150m]

atlantis costume bonus ignored once again … it is the lowest!

the other buffs i don’t mind even when some are too much…

please look at the worst heros at each event and buff them considerably more… examples of forgotten families: Slayers, S2, villains, mystery, …

[mpolo]

Saying this as one for whom Pophit is my “Most Powerful Hero”: Unnecessary buff. I’ll take it and exploit it, but it wasn’t needed.

[Aksu]

@EmpiresPuzzles

Verus

• Moonrise Strike damage increased: max 1000 → 1200 damage
• Stats increased:
  • Attack: 1048 → 1075
  • Defense: 1019 → 1046
  • Health: 1732 → 1812
  • Bleed damage increased (due to Attack stat increase): 900 → 924 damage over 4 turns

Mariol

• Moonrise Ward damage reduction increased: -600 → -700
• Stats increased:
  • Attack: 1032 → 1060
  • Defense: 1048 → 1079
  • Health: 1701 → 1781

Livia

• Stats increased:
  • Attack: 927 → 970
  • Defense: 1038 → 1081
  • Health: 1874 → 2004

I can not believe that these specific owls were the ones they decided to buff. Sitting here with my Ommodus like

[Sternman]

What is so disappointing is that they could avoid enraging us if they chose to.

Perhaps it is like politics, enraged players pay (voters vote), the ones that leave are more than made up for by the ones that increase spending until suddenly the entire thing collapses.

Such a shame because the game used to give pleasure most all of the time, now it is only occasional.

The parallels to destructive drug usage is too high for my liking

[Oxide]

@EmpiresPuzzles

Toon Gormek

• Attack ailment replaced with defense ailment
  • OLD: The target and nearby enemies get -24% attack for 6 turns.
  • NEW: The target and nearby enemies get -24% defense for 6 turns.

Love the way this is presented as part of a “Balance Update” when, in reality, it is a fix to something they screwed up due to the ongoing lack of QA/QC.

[TDSM]

Well, it’s absolutely disgraceful to take away Garten’s counterattack. I pumped him up just for the sake of a counterattack. It doesn’t look good when the hero’s mechanics change