Thatâs one way to look at it. The other is emotional manipulation. Make people feel bad that a company would care so little for their time and preferences and then throw them a bone. Sounds like an abusive relationship and a deplorable way to do business.
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Beta isnât part of the ârealâ game though, right? The fact we spend so much time and energy judging SGG on their beta-testing changes is primarily because itâs shared in these forums - not because SGG wants us to judge them for it. They rely on those beta testers to provide feedback based on seeing and playing with the proposed changes.
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This is the thin edge of the wedge. You start bowing to public pressure rather than the advice of your beta testers and youâll get no end of complaints hoping that numbers and persistence will influence change to favour the sqeakiest wheel. SG will never get off that hamster wheel now.
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Personally, I think all these threads on sharing beta changes absolutely ruins this entire forum and the attitudes of everyone here. And I know thatâs hypocritical of me - because here I am reading and commenting on them.
/yes, I did mean to reply to myself.
The most amusing argument to me, âI saw on the forums well in advance that Telly was going to be an unfairly powerful hero, so I spent a bunch of money!â
I spent a bunch of money to build a team that shouldnât be rendered useless by an overly-buffed hero.
My solution to this whole thing: Have your overly buffed super hero. But make them SUPER rare to obtain.
Telly is unbalanced and unavoidable because sheâs everywhere.
Since nobody seems to get that, or want that, I 100% support the nerf.
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Public pressure comes because they donât listen to beta testers and donât give enough resources to test different combination of heroes in beta.
since now there will always be mistrust, of all the heroes of the month because if SG decides to change it will be just a waste of time and money for the player.
Is there a beta tester in here that can relate about the nerf ? Or do all the previous post are only wind about a proposition ?
I reject this notion as too, the frequency is not the cause of imbalance, it is the effect. Even Guin/Ursena tank users convert to Telly.
No - since forever. Balances and changes have happened numerous times before; this isnât new.
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See now this I can 100% get on board with. Someone mentioned running mono red with Mitsuko, well how many players have her, and really is âjust run mono redâ the best counter argument, given that youâve now completely placed your fate into the hands of the board RNG?
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With the crazy heroes they design lately (they seems to have run out of idea as there are already around 100 5*). I guess it will be worse without beta beat thread.
It is because choosing to chase after a counter hero is a choice, having something taken away that you chose to summon for removes your choices and forces devalues your investment.
Towards Mr.Spockâs poll⊠I voted âI am done spending entirelyâ.
To be honest, I have cut off my spending sharply since February where I had to do almost 200 pulls to get JF. Reason is, for the whole 200 pulls, the only 5* I got is Isarnia and a duplicate Sartana.
I have no problem spending for the game I like⊠and I really love this game. Even with its abysmal percentage of getting a 5*, I still end up spending.
Through out the times though I noticed since last year⊠it is much easier to get a HotM than a S2 / S3 / Event 5* heroes. Thus I only spend up to 200 pulls for a HotM.
IT REALLY HURTS A LOT WHEN THE HOTM I HAVE, THE ADVANTAGE I HAVE OVER THOSE WIELDING THE POWER OF GRAVEMAKER and all those SPECIAL 5* HEROES⊠are being nerfed crazily.
Telluria is powerful⊠but SG is repeating the same mistakes it did with Neith. But nerfing Vela⊠that is just outrageous!!!
Did SG have any idea how many pulls I have to make for Vela to appear in my roster? Hoping for Finley? Fenrir? Hah I donât think I would even be able to get them after 500 pulls (and 500 pulls could already get me a decent computer). But going from past experiences⊠500 pulls would probably net me around 2 all the way up to 10 Vela probably. And that is the advantage I wield against those pesky Gravemaker (which I did also hundreds of pulls last Atlantis with not a single 5*⊠as usual). Of course⊠no Gravemaker.
Please Please Please reconsider these nerfing of heroes. Donât touch Vela. She is fine as she is. Yes, I agree that Telluria needs a little nerfing⊠but cutting her Heal Over Time to half is just outrageous.
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Could always get more beta testers and/or listen to their feedback more?
Regardless, us judging proposed changes being TESTED in beta seems less than idealâŠ
/Nothing wrong with constructive comments on them. But many are âburn this place downâ in nature.
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Is it a real choice though? If SG released THE perfect Telly counter next month, would those who have spent hundreds chasing Telly not also chase that perfect counter?
Thatâs my point.
Go do your six raid flags.
How many Telly tanks did you have to scroll past?
Six? Eight?
Sheâs everywhere.
What would have been cooler: Youâre readying for war and see one team on the other side â oooh! â has that super-rare; super-powerful Telly tank.
Small Giant would have still made their money, as people chased the Golden Ticket.
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@zephyr1 This green giant was over too strong! Thatâs why all players invest on this, there is a prove on top 100 players about 90% used her. Suggest creator to test this giant. I will be happy if you can do a LIVE video to test this giant.
I canât demonstrate how over strong she is, just imagine if AEGIR get the same benefits as Telluria was, add in 130%Damage to all and can summon minions to all allies, sounds cool rightâŠ
Agreed what everyone said donât nerf Telluria, because they âinvestâ on her, so just buffs the AEGIR, SANTA CLAUS, or others 5 stars heroes to make it balance as TELLURIA, fair to all PlayersâŠ
Make sense our members of community group E&P?
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I guess we see the Beta process differently, since I donât see a first test iteration as a âproposed plan,â just a way to test some possible changes and get feedback.
I donât interpret the first version as being at all intended to be final â as Iâm always saying, donât get too attached to first versions of Beta content.
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Shhhh! Donât say that one too loudly.