Disillusioned

Ideas & Feature Requests
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If you’re doing all the right things–and it sounds like you definitely are–then luck starts playing a huge role in how fast you advance. After a couple of hundred pull opportunities at the top end ascension mats, the luckiest 20% of people are likely to have twice as many, of average, as the unluckiest 20% of people.

The best advice is to keep doing the right things. My first Damascus Blade took 3 months to appear. The next 3 happened in 2 weeks. Of course, I’ve only got 2 Tomes right now, so that’s my bottleneck…

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This is the most inspiring thing I have read all day thank you Garanwyn

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Your ascension mats look about like mine when I was 8 months in. Within the next few months you’ll have enough to max some 5* heroes if you collect on all the rare quests that come along each 10 days or so.

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I’m calling a foul and revising my assessment, In another thread I just read you stating that you have been playing the game for three months.

Three months in, you have no basis whatsoever for complaint. One Damascus Blade is one more than you deserve for 12 weeks of play. 4* ascension materials are meant to be rare and difficult to obtain. The idea is that proper grown up players ought to be able to collect enough to ascend a rainbow 5* team in a year, not new arrivals.

Three months in, your chests ought to be filled with crystal shards, common herbs, and dirt, nothing more.

(Three months, dagnabit. Three months. 3. Serves me right for being nice.)

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@Brobb So I have no basis for complaint because I support the game with purchase? I beg to differ. I have just as much right as you do. You are no better then the player who starts tomorrow. 3 months is a decent amount of time game has been around since 2016 so if a rainbow 5 in 1 year how do people get 20 in 2 years?

Seems to me like I should be able to have a reference or something to look at when doing a purchase at the summons portal. There is really no real good guide other then the basics of match 3 gem play and hero attacking. They do NOT explain you need 4* mats to go with these 5* heroes when you level them up. And then the worst part is after you blow $100 you will figure out you lost all $100 and you have to play for a year or quit and lose out.

They need to fix the system. Explain the heroes being leveled up what it takes. Or increase the drop rates to stop infuriating people with crap. The drop rates were 100/100 better in 2017. So yeah that information come all the way from the top. I could careless at this point though to be honest… People been complaining for over a year now and nothing has changed.

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We all have the right to complain as much as we want about the game, and we do. But some complaints have a more sound basis than others and I don’t think yours is very well founded.

Different heroes require different materials to ascend. That’s fundamental to the game and is clear in the first week you play. It’s also clear that the materials to ascend 2* heroes are less common and harder to collect than those to ascend 1* heroes, and the materials to ascend Bane - the first 3* we are all gifted - are considerably less common and harder to collect again.

It hardly requires a massive leap of inductive reasoning to conclude that more powerful 4* heroes will require even less common materials that are even harder to collect, and 5* heroes - the most powerful in the game - will probably need something really rare and difficult to find. This is not rocket science.

So while this may technically be true:

it is pretty obvious from the first week of gameplay that the more powerful a hero is, the rarer and more difficult to find ascension materials will be. I don’t see any need for that to be spelled out further.

Especially because, hey, this forum already exists to provide answers for seekers of knowledge. If a player somehow managed to play for a while and be surprised at how difficult it was to find ascension materials for 5* heroes, they could always follow the in-game links to this place, where all their questions would be answered. (As I believe has happened in this case, QED.)

No, it’s not.

Because not all players are happy to relax and accept what the game gives them. Some choose to accelerate their progress by spending. As always, I’m grateful to them for funding the game, but there are no guarantees in E&P. Some spenders will be lucky in pulling good heroes but will be frustrated by an inability to buy the materials to ascend them. Some will never manage to pull the heroes they want. Some will pull great heroes and luck into the ascension items they need in ascension packs - maybe even doing so cheaply.

If you have a short attention span (like, 3 months short), don’t enjoy the roller coaster ride of low probability events, or would prefer to be able to buy guaranteed success, then this game just might not be for you. It’s all about grinding over time, accepting that runs of both bad and good luck will happen. Or spending a wheelbarrow full of money.

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Brobb, people like you really get under my skin lol. You show your fully ascended hero’s and your 4* accession items and of course your defending E&P. You’ve been lucky and just assume that everyone should feel like you. You’ve been fed and argue against a person that’s hungry. Or Even better your the person that won at the casino and than defend how it’s fair while 1000 people are leaving broke. The guy didn’t say they should give out accession stuff frequently just improve on war chest but a person like you who have been lucky to get everything is gonna deny that request lol very laughable

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Teapot’s core complaint is that AMs don’t drop often enough for him to be levelling his 5* heroes after 3 months of play. If you can think of a way of changing this without “[giving] out ascension stuff frequently,” I’d love to hear it.

Also, @Brobb has stated that she/he had 2 5* heroes after 8 months of playing, and relatively little in the way of AM at that point. If that’s your definition of lucky, then I’m guessing most players of this game are lucky as all get-out.

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@Garanwyn If I can buy a hero I should be able to level it. Yes, your correct. I should not have to wait 6 months to level it. Whether its a 1* or 5* or they should just simply stop selling the hero. I could name a lot better stuff to put my money on then a gamble that you cant even use. Its like a piece of paper saying you can have this but you have to wait a year. Screw that. That is not fair when it was your money and you wanted to buy something that is falsified. But I shouldn’t have to play 8 months or even a year to have a strong foundation for this argument.

@Brobb Your still wrong buddy they don’t explain 4* and 5* heroes need different ascension materials than a 2* or a 3*. So yeah its easily mistaken you can level a 4* and a 5*. So just because you been playing 8 months and taking your sweet time doesn’t mean the rest of us are playing at a slow pace. I run out of stuff to do I get bored and simply stop playing. That is how this game works. Seems like your just here to rant because your F2P trying to stop P2P players.

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If you genuinely couldn’t work out that more powerful heroes were likely to need different and harder to acquire ascension materials than weaker heroes, then you might not having been thinking very much about the game. Hey - at least you’ve learned something!

Point of order: I’ve been playing 23 months and taking my sweet time.

That’s sad. You’ll be missed,

I love P2P players. I want you all to stay. Without you, there’s no game.

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Then why do you assume I should have no voice? You act like I have no right to be here. That is basically you slamming your own words. One minute you say i’m a joke and have no right to talk. Now your saying there would be NO game if people like me did not exist. Sounds like a very solid foundation to me. Please just stop

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Lol this thread has been an awesome read

@Brobb @Garanwyn

And many others

You guys crushed it and explained everything correctly and thoroughly

Unfortunately you’re dealing with a lost cause

A player still stuck on “i keep dumping money but my roster still sucks after 3 months” over “I’ve spent over a year playing and my roster still sucks” is a lost cause

He will never understand the balance of the game or the grind or the patience.

@ABCTeapot I’ve seen this game spelled out to you at least 10 times by now

If I’ve put in 15 months and you’ve put in 3 and we’ve both spent money, what exactly is it that makes you think you should have a roster equivalent to mine?(outside of the obvious entitlement issues)

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The tread has turned wrong on more levels that ‘so many’.

Do agree that war cheats are a little stingy given the effort put in to pop ‘em but boy this thread has taking a turn.

It’s A GAME. We all play it differently. We all ascend different rates. Nuff said. I’m going back to redicous complaints- they seem more valid.

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@Rigs I could careless about your roster. Why are you even concerned about it? You think we will face off in the near future and you might lose? Probably.
I do not believe my roster comes close to yours nor do I care if the guy who starts tomorrow is better. I am not here for the top blood shed. Seems like your very competitive and a sore loser.

If I may remind you this topic was about

And I agree with him/her. Enough said.

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You have a voice and a right to be here and I’m delighted that you are. But this certainly does not mean that every claim you make will go unchallenged. This is a forum: we share our opinions and ideas. We often disagree. That’s something you probably ought to be able to handle.

Or do you feel that you ought to be beyond criticism? Why?

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Lmao roster comparisons and mat drops go hand in hand

You feel like you should accumulate as many mats in 3 months as i have in 15 months

And outside of entitlement issues, it literally makes no sense

“Players that started in 2017 have more mats and maxed heros than i do”

If a player has played longer, it only makes sense they’re further ahead. Seriously, common sense…

We can debate this all day long but you have no leg to stand on. You’ve played 3 months. And make claims about a year you didnt even play.

I can give you a mat count and exactly how many mats I’ve accumulated in 2018 but it wont make you feel any better and will only further disprove your 2017 vs 2018 claims

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Well @Rigs this is where you are wrong? You actually have to summon heroes or train them through TC20 which by the way doesn’t happen overnight. Your basically asking E&P to make sure nobody can catch you through default because that would make a lot of sense. Funny thing is I don’t think anybody probably knows who you are in this game besides your alliance mates. And if I get more drop rates… so do you… you will never lose advantage. Stop playing on idle and start flying your wings bud.

I have an alliance teammate who has been here from pretty much the start relay the message that the drop rates have decreased significantly. So yeah he has 20- 80s maxed and your saying I should feel gifted if I get a rainbow 5* team in 1 year. This game has only been out 2 years! Your not even making sense defending that statement.

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Alright Rigs, you win I have a typo on my profile. You want a cookie? Meant to say 2018.

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2.5k likes looks like a lot more than just my alliance mates…

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So your like count is rallied towards all your friends? I can only imagine having a line or discord with that many friends. Sounds like the smartest thing you said all day to be honest :slight_smile:

P.S. I liked your post above so you would make a new friend today … Your welcome