Merry Christmas, Christine.
Hmm just because the deals that have the same price as today’s winter deal have the same format (ie the ones that are $29.99, £28.99 or whatever it is in your currency) I’m wondering if the absence of a flask in the deal was a mistake or not. In previous windows the deal has been 2800 gems, 2 EHT, 3 ETT, 1 x 4* AM, 2 3* AMs, 1 4x 4* Crafting Material, 1 2x 4* Crafting Material and a flask but today it’s the same format but with a flask missing.
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Do you mean you kept using continues with Gems, and spent over 12,000 Gems on the continues?
Santa and Buddy cause Attack debuffs, and Mother North heals — plus they all make Minions. All of that is why they’re very difficult Bosses.
I assume that’s what you mean by them not taking damage, that you’re not making much impact against them?
What heroes did you take for Stage 24?
Colen 4th Ascension Level 70 (Talent Grid 10), Master Lepus 4th Ascension Level 80, Cyprian FULLY MAXED-OUT, Kadilen 4th Ascension Level 70, and Caedmon 4th Ascension Level 70 (Talent Grid 16) - 3911 Power overall!!!
Team Power alone isn’t a very useful indicator, as synergy matters a lot.
Those are individually good heroes, but they don’t do much to address the challenges that Santa, Mother North, and Buddy present.
You don’t have any healer to help keep your heroes alive
You don’t have any hero to clear the attack and defense debuffs or overwrite them with buffs
You don’t have any Mana controllers to help prevent Mother North from firing
Cyprian can be a decent option, since Buddy hits 3, and Santa hits all — so there’s a good chance for his Riposte to do some counter damage. But that alone won’t be enough to keep up with Mother North.
If you lack many alternative options, nuking the Bosses with items is an effective strategy.
Dragon Attacks, Bomb Attacks, and Axe Attacks are useful. All the better if you can bring Harpoons too — that mix is enough to kill them outright.
You can find a lot of discussion of that here: 🎅 Santa's Challenge 2019: Teams, Strategy, FAQs, Discussion, and Links – Christmas Event
Even @madmarv found it hard
After 2x fails, I found harpoons, and quickly killing Mothe North, are the only way to complete it.
I went the mana control plus heavy damage route (Proteus and Time Stops; Boldtusk, Wilbur, Falcon, Scarlett; bonus that it gives counters to the attack and defense debuffs too):
On my alt which couldn’t just overpower it…
I used Rigard, Wu, Elena, Proteus, Boldtusk.
I brought medium mana, large health, bombs, and dragon attacks.
I used a couple health to help get my team rolling because of a bad starting boards… didn’t need anything through the other normal waves… got to the last stage after loading all specials on 3/4… used mana to keep proteus mana stop on them… used tiles to get them low enough… then dumped 3500 damage from the bombs and dragon attacks.
As I found out on my 2x fails, Santa’s 5% minion heal all allies and Buddy 's 5% minion heal nearby allies is SIGNIFICANT when 5% is 4300 or 4500 HP.
Colen also suffers from Original Hero Syndrome, Colen’s DOT are too spread out for a strong healer boss and two other minor healing bosses.
Who would you use if you didn’t have Falcon as tank?
I’d either go with another heavy hitter or another mana controller — or just bring heavier Battle Items and nuke them from orbit.
If I weren’t nuking…
Despite being blue, Grimm +18 would be tempting, because he hits like a truck.
Other options I’d consider would be Colen (adds to the red stack), Merlin (mana control in 3-2 with Proteus), a second Proteus (makes it easier to keep the Bosses locked down), Hansel (fast mana control is useful, and green is only weak against Santa), Chao (fast mana control in a neutral color), or Li Xiu (mana control against all in a neutral color).
Colen isn’t a bad choice, he’s just squishy. His high attack stat and defense bypassing burn are very useful when 2 of the end bosses are green. Cyprian with reflect is also a good choice. You don’t need Caedmon, none of the bosses buff themselves. You could replace him with a red like Boldtusk. You need healing. Lepus hits hard but lowers his own defense. Those normal stage monsters will hit him hard. Kadilen is useful on the last stage but you really want them to go off as little as possible, hence the battle item dump. You need healing to go into the last stage full strength, and free up your battle items slots for mana and damage. If you have Proteus, you need to bring him. Time stops can also help.
What in the world possessed you to blow 12k gems on a single event level?!?!?
This is the best possible advice that can be given on the subject. I’ll just add:
- I took 2 healers, and found that quite necessary
- after that many continues, I doubt you have items left to blow, but Time Stops were vital for me.
Thanks. I don’t have Falcon but I do have others you had mentioned. I have always others you now mentioned but Merlin. All mine need to be leveled way more than they are now. I’m proud to have completed advanced stage 14 with a 3100 team.
Sorry to here you are having a bad time but first you must understand that you are dealing with three minion makers so its not they are not recieving damage its that there minions are acting as shields for lack of a better word. Mana control is huge for last stage. Hansel gretel, proteus, hel, even li xui shine here. Time stops are also huge as they remove mana from all of them. I usually take 5 big mana pots, time stops, dragon bombs and tornadoes, tornadoes allow you to mana your whole team, mana pota allow u to charge one of your mana dispellers during a bad board, dragon. Attack puts a dot on them, and the time stops, remove all mana from all three. Take your time and time your specials and time stop usage to take out mother north first. The biggest thing I noticed was you have no healer which is a no no for the amount of hp those guys have. If you have anymore questions or are still struggling feel free to get back to us, but please, reframe from the name calling and swearing, it gives a bad vibe and you are trying a level repeatedly and not realizing you needed a healer is the biggest issue.
Colen - weak
Master Lepus - ok
Cyprian - weak
Kadilen - weak
Caedmon - weak
That team can’t beat the Christmas Dream team. Who else do u have? U better bring some tornadoes, revive scrolls, and time stops with that line up
Ok but zephyr is right though. The problem isn’t team power, it’s the choice of heroes. That team doesn’t have a lot of damage output. It has no way to deal with the debuffs of Santa/Buddy. And I don’t know why you would bring 2 green heroes to the fight when you know the bosses are red/green. I’m pretty sure when you said the bosses are taking no damage it’s because you were hitting them with special skills while your attack was debuffed, and they had minions which absorb damage. They act as little meat shields.
Well better luck next time. Try stacking red or something.
Colen - not a bad choice
Lepus - bad choice. Not as colour. Because Santa is red, blue is OK. But doesn’t help your team with anything. Grimm would have been much better. Kiril, even better. You don’t start such mission without even a healer. This is basic knowledge…
Cyprian - I won’t ever understand the players who bring Cyprian or Boril in attack. Don’t help your team with anything and the fact they are used, it means the player accepts to be hit over and over again, to justify their purpose. Worst idea ever. Especially with such bosses.
Kadilen - though makes your line-up more resistant to bosses specials, not recommended. She is green. And in this mission the tile damage weights the most.
Caedmon - what is his purpose?
As you see, it is not the game fault; only yours. There is a thread opened 1 month ago, where many members asked for help and advices.
Simply, you should have post some screenshots with your heroes and some of us would have advised you the best line-up for this mission, items to bring and strategy to use. Because there is a strategy, in the end of stage 3, when the player should prepare the heroes and the board.
Anyway, you won’t see a single gem back. You spent them willingly and was only your fault, as I explained above.
@BOBtheBEAR how many maxed 4*/5* healers do you have? Bring them all.
5x Dragon Attack
5x Bomb Attacks
5x Axe Attacks
Kill the mob waves without spending any items, using many healers is the key.
Throw all Dragon Attacks, Bomb Attacks, and Axe Attacks when the boss wave started.
Throw 2x Harpoons to Santa, 2x Harpoons to Mother North, and 1x Harpoon to Buddy.
Santa & MN should be dead by then while Buddy will be left with small ammount of HP, kill him with your heroes/puzzle.
Do not ever spend gems to use continue.
As @zephyr1 said:
But if you are not satisfied,
I will help him do better:
Minions act as a meat shield which took damage intended against a hero.
Suppose they have a minion with 200 HP. When you match puzzle with total damage only 150, the minion will lose 150 HP but the heroes will not lose HP.
They will only lose damage if your attack is above the minion HP, suppose you deal 300 damage, the minion will die because they only have 200 HP, and the remaining damage (300-200=100) will be dealt against the heroes, so they will lose 100 HP.
This is why in your attempt at damaging them, half of the time it didn’t reduce their HP.
This is not a glitch, not a bug.