Roughian & Nurgib – 5* Fire / Red - January 2023 HOTM (Hero of the Month) -- Initial Release

[Math-Teacher]

I’m “pretty sure”, too, but the description is vague (shocking, I know ) and I haven’t found any definitive evidence.

I’m curious if it one of those “seems better than it actually is” things.

[2puttshaqur]

It is all observational evidence. But… When we see a hero with minions in 5 turns not get their minions eaten… Then we can presume it to be random. Until then… Observational evidence suggests she targets minion holding heroes.

[Math-Teacher]

That’s why I came here. Not for the guesses but the facts.

I’ll see what I can dig up and report back.

[2puttshaqur]

@Math-Teacher

’ll see what I can dig up and report back.

See if you have a teammate that will set their raid defense with twin seshats at the wings, or devana, and then 3 healers in the center… and then just see if every 3rd roughian constantly focuses on devana/seshat. If it were random… and presuming they have minions, it would be 40% of the time every 3rd turn. But if it is at 100%… then there you go…

And I’m not even suggesting you go through chi square analysis.

[Sorvina]

I tested it against a team with one superior druid. So far R&N always remove thorne minions, but I have to fight it more times to be sure that it works as we think. Waiting for flags…

[Math-Teacher]

I power leveled R&N and tested it on one raid so far and there was not a “miss” in three scenarios.

1. 50% chance to target the minion owner and the minions were removed. (2 out of 4 had minions)

2. 25% chance to remove minions and it worked again. (1 out of 4 had minions)

3. 25% chance to correctly target and it worked. (1 out of four had minions)

The chances of three successful events is 3.125%. Not impossible but good enough for me. One or two more data points would make the odds astronomical.

Edit

I found four more events, all successful. 2x 25% and 2x 50% chances. .049%

[2puttshaqur]

It’d be one Hell of a coincidence if she did it randomly.

[Pandaaking]

Did anyone get the state and ability of lv 90?

[jwilsonsaid]

Special Boost - At the start of each turn, this Hero’s Special Skill deals an additional +30% damage for 6 turns.

[Kvothe]

Found one out in the wild

[GeeWally]

The word comes from an old toy called a ‘nerf’ ball which was a soft foam ball developed around the 70’s that was marketed for small kids who could play with it and not hurt themselves.

[leaponover]

This card has an innate ability that is missing in the text. It should read “Steals 50% mana from the target that has the most mana and distributes them on allies” . More and more when I face this duo they always hit the unit that’s just about to fire lol. I hate you R&N!

[griselda]

Yes, it works!
No guardians will appear when you use R+N on the MT.
Just the 3 in the beginning, no further ones.

[Alysa]

When embleming, does the mana node help? Thx.

[FrenziedEye]

It depends on the threshold you are at and the level of your mana troops…

The 2% will save you levelling your troops to the required breakpoint / level

For instance I believe a level 23* mana troop (12% mana boost) can help an average speed hero charge in 9 tiles (as opposed to the usual 10!).

If you got the 2% mana boost you could potentially get away with… a level 17 mana troop (or whatever lvl mana troop has 11% mana boost)

My numbers may be off but hopefully you get what I mean. Perhaps there is someone on here who knows the precise breakpoints, I keep forgetting the name of the thread

*I forget the breakpoints for a fast hero (like R&N), I think it is a level 28 mana troop from memory. So…same analysis…you could get away with…a level 23? mana troop if you got the 2% boost, I think…

Edited numbers above

[Alysa]

Thank you, exactly the info I was looking for. Even though I’m still far from that kind of troop lvl (lvl 13 in red, highest is lvl 17 in a different colour), I‘ve always wanted a concise information about those mana breaking points and how to reach them. Maybe there’s a chart somewhere? Does anyone know? Thank you, and thx again frenzied eye. Gonna go sword and maybe reset once I get my troops up.

[FrenziedEye]

New Mana Troops goals after +20 Class Talents?

[e%26p_mana_gen] Thought I’d do the math and try to summarize the effects of combining troops and class bonuses. The brief summary is as someone said earlier, if you have maxed mana troops class bonuses generally don’t make a difference. However, class bonuses do lower the troop level required to hit certain tile # thresholds. Example being a Ranger/Rogue like Athena/Domitia with average mana speed. Instead of requiring level 23 mana troops to require 9 tiles to charge, they only require their…

Looks like one sheet is here. Looks like I was wrong…it’s a level 23 mana troop to take 1 tile off average, apologies. So …level 17 troop it seems with 2% mana bonus

There are others I just can’t find them

[Alysa]

Perfect, so kind, thanks!!

[FrenziedEye]

Enjoy! No worries!

[OAlexisO]

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