Relius does flip Hel’s mana block to a buff
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How many mana ailments are there?
Onatel steal mana
Hel/proteus mana freeze
Waddles/ bubbles shifting mindless
Non shifting mindless of alf zocc etc.
Hansel/gretel half mana loss when full
Am i missing any?
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Probably Fulvia’s 3 turn mana cut as well.
What about Balbar’s/Teddy’s sleep? That prevents any mana gain, so it might count as a mana ailment.
Lepiota… She’s one as well. I’ll do some friendlies in alliance, write down exactly what is resisted by the family. But if any of y’all want to beat me to the punch… I’m ok with that too.
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Li xiu mana cut not protected, which also probably means luna and waterpipe are unaffected.
The sleep guy … blocked
Gretel/ hansel blocked
Costume hel and probably onatel blocked.
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I need to check lepioda hel/proteus fulvia and waddles
Relius does stop Lepiota / does not go into abyss mode
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Do we want to ask if shifting mana should be stopped by the family bonus. Honestly, I feel like when I start seeing rels in the wild, I am going to want to be able to waddles him… so I don’t want to ask… but it seems dumb that shifting mindless isn’t part of the protection.
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Never hurts to ask, but i do think since Mindless ( attack and heal) does not effect mana generation like all the others do, it is not effected by the owl family bonus.
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Did you check with silence (Lixiu custume 2)?
If silence ailment can be stopped, then mindless ailment should can be stopped too.
Anyone know what the hell is going on with that fulvia hit against Goldie’s reflect? It looks like the damage is reflected back to all… Not just a random person. So the owl damage is more like a single turn dot damage than just damage.
Relius should do as the card reads. “ALL received mana status ailments.” It absolutely should include mindless attack!
Satori’s passive SPECIFICALLY states ailments that affect mana generation…
Either word it correctly, place a “?” that states what isn’t affected, or ALL ailments that affect mana shouldn’t bother the bird!
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Under mindless attack, you are still able to gain mana as well as fire the special, it’s just the special IS mindless attack. Therefore there is nothing to block.
It’s the same reason that if an enemy is under mindless attack (or heal) while also under Darkfeather’s “attack if another ally attacks” buff, they will fire their mindless AND attack an enemy opponent.
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you can gain mana while under hansel/gretel’s special… so I acknowledge what you are saying, but the owls resist hansel/gretel.
From reading Hansel and Gretel’s card, as the enemy’s mana bar goes to full, the ailment will consume 50% of the mana (along with damage).
It is the ailment that consumes the mana, not the hero firing their special. Thus this ailment is a form of mana ailment and so gets blocked. I admit, it’s sneaky. Mindless attack has more so been tied to preventing the use of special skills, which is why Poseidon and Cupido resists mindless.
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Miki, Tettukh silence acts like Li Xiu I guess.
Riuby/ Roughian steal.
This is a looooonng thread to get clever at!
I haven’t seen any message from SG, so I guess the mechanic of revival and then 30% is still not fixed?
Are there any other issues still pertaining Relius? I have Relius and Xiamara standing in line, and could use both, but must settle for one. Relius could for sure aid a team with strong double purple, if the reduction of Holy damage work. Xiamara just because Xiamara. (I have Mother North 1LB maxed FYI in relation to resurrection).
But is Relius still lagging behind or? Buff for Owls at next portal would be logical, interesting how much or little they will add since an entire new bunch of Owls are waiting for release, probably aiding a different color ward. Which again means, we are missing around 20 5* owls to be released over time!..