šŸ˜² Is it me? or people started to quit the game / become m.i.a.? #1

Thatā€™s a tough thing.

I, too, wish that the forum platform would filter out all of the perspectives I didnā€™t want to hear (intentionally obtuse posts, annoying trolls, overt negativity, ridiculous personal attacks or other things that detract from the overall enjoyment of the forum).

There is a way to filter out whole sections and only look at the recruiting stuff. I forgot exactly how to do it, but you can customize your homescreen.

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True dat! Definitely agree.

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We lost 2 nice partners of the alliance because they were done with spending money and donā€™t get any nice summon. We all know that is just lick but after a long time and not getting anything but Gunnar they decide to drop the the game, they were level 62 and 54

Well as we just lost Rigs along with a growing list of some of the most knowledgeable players here, and it all seems due to the overwhelming greediness of who? Is it Zynga pulling these strings? Or is it a deliberate choice by SG?
The alchemy lab was an obvious failure by most standards. The Hero Academy could be promising but will it leave beta that way? It appears to make the despicable Tavern of Heroā€™s even less needed or wanted than it already is!! Thatā€™s a VERY strong statement as anyone with more sense than dollars understands that itā€™s a money pit the really removes what little goodwill SG got from the very small coronavirus/quarantine ā€œgiftsā€ to help the ā€œcommunityā€.
I really hope that someone comes to their senses here very soon as the future isnā€™t looking very bright. I can guarantee I wonā€™t be the last man standing here. If this trend continues Iā€™ll be on the short bus heading to a mind numbing game to help me forget faster than AL Gore invented the internet.
This is and always will be, in my 50+ (a tiny bit more) years of experiences, the best run and maintained forum Iā€™ve ever been a part of. Iā€™ve made many great friends here and have enjoyed every minute I spend on the forums. BUT, I do not wish to see a slow painful death and as such will not remain to watch if this trend continues.

#SmallGiant, #Zynga PLEASE stop this blood letting before itā€™s completely out of your control. We, the players/fan base, wether F2P or P2W do NOT wave to see this game die in the name of a 1% gain in stock. If you continue to show you donā€™t care we will continue to find a place that does (thereā€™s at least 1!! Maybe even 2) so FFS alter course NOW or Season 3 will end in misery and sadness if it even makes it that far.

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@PeachyKeen, Iā€™m 100% behind this statement. There are 2 reasons Iā€™m still here, #1 my alliance, a better group of people you will never gather in one spot again, #2 this forum and players such as yourself who go out of their way to help other players without a 2nd thought (btw that made a VERY big impression on my alliance, thanks again) and the Moderators thst give so much of their free time to make this the special place I can assure anyone new that it is.
Once I leave my very 1st step will be to sell any Zynga stock I may or may not have and then to make sure this company never gains another cent from me nor a second of my time.

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So far, as best as many of us can tell, it is largely a reskin of EP. Same buildings (even same costs and build times - I lookup the costs here to know how to plan for the next level of a building). Same five colors and strengths and weaknesses. Raids, wars, titans. Even this new concept of temporary extra health is something they have there, itā€™s just called armor. And it triggers different behaviors just like Baldurā€™s special behaves here. Rare quests, challenge events, 1*-5* heroes, poor story/dialogue - itā€™s all there.

There are some new features (weapons are advanced differently than troops, square matches create diagonally exploding dragons), UI improvements, they just had a huge balance release.

All that to say, it may be a different development team, but they started with the same source code, work in the same building, etc. As you insinuated, it is likely that PC ā€œstoleā€ some talent from EP, whether creative or technical, and for a ā€œsmall company,ā€ that loss is going to be evident to end users.

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Itā€™sā€¦ tooā€¦ muchā€¦

After 2+ years as one of the middle casual players I have a couple times considered quitting. Iā€™ve been active here so Iā€™m certainly not in the silent majority. I also donā€™t spend much and never will. The first 10 months I spent nothing.

I continue to play because I still enjoy the challenges the game offers to me. I am not bored with the game yet, inf act I am still learning its intricacies. I have pulled all but one S1 5* (missing Magni), many in duplicates, but it would take me literally years to gather the required materials to level them all. And I am not even close to a level 30 troop. Or a +20 emblemed hero. But if I do become bored, I will quit playing. Iā€™ll say my goodbyes to my alliance of two years and hopefully post a short goodbye like @Rigs.

I will NOT start another match 3 game like E&P. I will probably not start another online game, at least not for a while. This is the second one Iā€™ve played on my phone. The other I played for three years, spent literally zero in the game, never accessed the forums, reached a point where I could easily finish top 1% in any tournament, and got bored and frustrated with the changes they made to it. Itā€™s actually still on my tablet but I havenā€™t played it at all in months and not regularly in a year and a half. That could eventually be E&Pā€™s fate.

One thing that I have noticed for me is a definite lessening of interest in a lot of the, um, new content here in the forums.

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In that particular case, ā€œBobā€ was already only a ā€œmemberā€. ā€œElderā€ status was granted to those who were steady and reliable. ā€œCo-leaderā€ was granted to those who were steady, reliable, and helpful. Took me a couple months to go from member to co-lead. As a co-leader, I didnā€™t want to kick Bob. But other co-leads voted and decided that ā€œBobā€ had missed too many titans and war flags. I was the only one who voted to keep Bob. But I was outnumberedā€¦ and as much as I believe in supporting individual people, I also believe in democracy and ā€œwhatā€™s best for the allianceā€. Majority of the alliance decided that Bob had to go. So, Bob had to goā€¦ in order to keep the majority happy. :man_shrugging:

This was my first alliance, mind youā€¦ most of us didnā€™t use Line. 95% of communication was via alliance chat. 5% through email (though email was mostly used for private conversations not meant to be read by everyone).

Iā€™m not in that alliance anymore, because drama. I left and started my own casual group where the scores donā€™t matter and titans oftentimes escape because half of us forgot that we had a titan in the first place. :laughing:

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I think what everyone has to realize is that 1-E&P is a ā€œgood gameā€. If it wasnā€™t most would play a few months and quit. 2. The ones that are ā€œintoā€ it will find a source to further their game play- forumns, fb group or even YouTube. That being said- I think the main focus should be creating a good experience for the player base on the forumns. Really, SG should realize itā€™s what attracts interest in their gameā€¦ when you can get into contact with players here you also get info to join line or Discord, game play help etc. The forumns is actually the best platform to let ā€œother playersā€ promote their game. Itā€™s sad to see the forumns just turn into a ā€œhand outā€ for some players to complain they ā€œthink thisā€ or ā€œ want thatā€. Make the forumns a better place and they could turn things around. Donā€™t have a presence and let the animals turn this into ā€œAnimal Farmā€ and we can probably conclude the out come.

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Maybe itā€™s time for another community engagement thru Line as done recently with avatars to honor players? Those spread like wild fire all over the world and truly showed what an amazing community we have. How about if we all agree on one avatar and no spending until we get a new AMA with SG that actually gives us some answers about all the issues being raised lately?

Or maybe we should all start mentioning other games until here until staff gets tired of removing them :grin:?

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Language is another problem too.
Forum rule said, English is the official language, but people around the world are using many different languages. Forum gives some spaces for foreign languages posts, but it does not work at all.

Even the game itself does not support my mother tongueā€¦ No wonder that the player base in my country is very smallā€¦ People leave the game too soon because of the language barrier.

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Il piano Ć© che SG devE andare a lavorare in miniera! e le persone iniziano finalmente a capirlo

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Well said @nevarmaor, I think Iā€™ve always respected your thought processes with these sort of things because you didnā€™t throw money at the game to get ahead. You took the long and hard road and to me that deserves respect.
But,
Itā€™s becoming harder and harder to understand some of the moves made by SG (zynga) Some of these season 3 heroā€™s are taking power creep to power jog and I imagine towards the end power Sprint. We can then add in the ā€œOMG itā€™s the end of the world!!!ā€ nerf to JF that move him from the most sought after supposed OP beta hero to the bench in the majority of teams (If they added 150% initial damage to him it makes him useful, as is hes just a not very good meat shield with a jaunty hat) To the immediate release of Telluria, without a natural opponent in an unnerfed JF, then you add in the Vela/GM Synergy and suddenly Vela gets caught in the crossfire but luckily was only a grazed (one I donā€™t think she needed and she eluded my roster). So Telly gets a nerf (that IMO changed very little) after all the money had been spent chasing her. Then they buff QoH? Was someone complaining? There was even consideration to nerf GOBBLER who, other than Agwe, is the least leveled 4* until maybe the current meta?
The release of the original Alchemy Lab and the new and improvised AL, look make its not the right word but it began with an I anyway, version which I still am doing nothing with.
Then because of my 54 compasses, 51 Fine gloves, 27 sturdy shields, 21 hidden blades and complete inability to get any 4* AM (other than quests) because I either buy them, nope, or I get another 3* AM from elemental chests, Titan/Titan chests, even the war chest like to give me multiple scabbards ā€¦and compasses!!!
So now the summoning portal loves me, 6 Clarissaā€™s!!! 2 Kages, Alfrike, several Grimbles and Margaretā€™s and worst of all several Atomosā€™s that is NOW actually WORTH the AMā€™s that I used elsewhere so he remains where he was sitting on my bench. Because before the recent update where they gave the 1st ever mana speed buff? and he suddenly began wiping half my team.

Bottom line Iā€™m certainly not bored. Havenā€™t been here long enough, nor had much time to play as much recently with the coronavirus and other exciting real life dramas. But to watch highly respected player after highly respected player leave itā€™s quite disheartening. I get you caffeine keep everyone happy but many if not most of these players didnā€™t simply leave because they were bored. They left because they felt unappreciated and ignored. If the beta testers unanimously tell you ToH needs to be fixed you DONā€™T ignore them!!! You FIX it. Iā€™m going to bet that summoning portal is the least used portal in the game other than the free tokens. Because once again 71% chance of Dawa and F. Tuck showing up is nonsense

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To be a bit on point instead of just more criticism, I would like to add that many of the things us players want has nothing to do with lowering SGs revenue. Better odds in summons and more AM for instance would only make people hungry for more. When we get what we wanted, we want the next thing. Itā€™s silly but true.

Another thing that wouldnā€™t loose SG money is more content (Wars!!!) that forces/lets us use more of the roster. Several defenses in war for instance. It wouldnā€™t stop players from summons, just make more heroes valuable. How many Guin owners here get sad when you see her in the roster (remembering maybe how much you spent to get her) possibly never to be used again?

Sometimes I think SG got the puzzles part wrong and thinks it works like a jigsaw :jigsaw: with a limited number of pieces before players are done spending.

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This have bother me sometimes when seeing flagged posts because of language.

Why donā€™t we help each other by translating instead of flagging them?

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Puzzle combat will bomb at the box office like a power rangers movie. Do they think anybody other than E&P playerbase would give a damn about it when even E&P players lost trust in their approach?

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I wonā€™t deny this is true at least to some extent, but what has been told on this issue is very widespread. Many old players are caged in this game by their personal relationships. Iā€™m telling this confidently because this is true (even truer than whales) for the players from my country, Turkey.

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Iā€™m level 62, play for 18 months and got 4 5* heroes in pulls. Nice chances hein?

Those are terrible returns on pulls for sure. Does that include TC20 pulls? Iā€™m now at 27 months playing and level 59.

But I have some 39 5* (half at 1-1). 4 are non-S1.