Greed. How to lose 120 paying clients because summons & loot is gambling with zero reward

Now you have more than what I have.
Should I complain that new players have AMs more than vetrens? :joy:

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I tried to start a thread where we can all stand together in dec. no one replied or read it maybe itā€™s time to take a look being you have so many people interested n making a stand.
It was called we have the power to change the odds

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If you roll a 6-sided die 100 times and get a 6 16 times, would you be equally shocked?

Summon odds are posted - Iā€™m confused how you can be shocked by recorded summon results unless you collected insufficient data or didnā€™t understand basic stats.

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My idea was to start having alliances talk to one another and start a stop spending for a month and show the devs what they r losing till they up the drop rates to maybe 4 or 5 % chance instead of the 2%. So if that something u guys r interested being your a higher leveled alliance maybe u saying will have some meaning gl

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I stopped spending for the most part, but I think of it as entertainment. I can go to the casino with $50 and if I come home with moreā€¦ great. If I come back minus $50, I had a good evening of entertainment. I donā€™t disagree with the frustration in the original post, but I donā€™t have illusions about how the game works and donā€™t expect it to change.

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I dunno if youā€™re taking tge ā– ā– ā– ā–  out of me or not lol. Doesnā€™t matterā€¦

The thing is, is until folks stop defending the business practice (especially being they market to children) nothing will change.

Itā€™s far too bad that when people are upset and make complaints that the thread is hijacked with the gacha machine posts, broken game post etc.

I read a lot of comments as it is an important issue to me and most folks donā€™t want everything easier or even a choice of characters/mats/whatever. Just better odds.
I donā€™t think thats much to ask especially with the zynga buyout. No ones going hungry over there.

All the hijacking does is make people feel unlistened to and sweep the bigger issue under the rug. Not cool at all.

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I donā€™t understand this part TBH!

Lol. No worries. Teasing me. I live in a ski town. Picked up aussie and kiwi slangā€¦ :joy:

I wasnā€™t trying to attack/offend/insult/teassing any one.
I donā€™t do this things. No one deserve to be treat with this ways at all. Sorry if any of my posts had gave any of sorted above meanings. Never was my intention.

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For all of your 30 pulls and no 4 & 5 * draws. It could be worse. I drew 10 Holy heroes. 7 4s and 2 5s and alas, a (one) 3*. SIGHā€¦ now I canā€™t afford to level them all up. LOL. And who do I keep. I only manage 6 teams. SIGH again.

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i did 3x30 and got zero *5 , yeah its annoying but well it happens , accepted it and try again next month

just spend what you can afford to lose

No worries man. For the record Iā€™m alright with a little bit of teasing (ie my complaint of having lots of mats and no heroes, it is kinda funny) and I did not feel attacked. You are always careful with your posts.

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Didnā€™t realize the odds were postedā€¦ never noticed it before. I wonā€™t get my hopes up in the future. Thanks for clarifying Greg

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I have two accounts, my main and my alt. This months collective results:

20 Event summons = 0 5*
75 Atlantis summons = 0 5*
3 Epic hero tokens = 1 Onatel
12 TC20 draws = 1 Kadilen

Purely coincidence, but all of the new 5* in my rosters have come without spending a dime.

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at least in Atlantis you still get Mats chest , i did 90 without *5 but got 4 x *4 mats , better than pull nothing in elemental/epic portal

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Dont like you. :stuck_out_tongue:

Never gotten any bonus draws from epic tokens.

Therein lies the complaints. Odds are too low. We get guaranteed mats to (probably) ascend a team of 5 per yearā€¦ Why can they not do the same for heroes?

God knows Iā€™ve spent and grinded a lot this month in hopes of Onatel and have recieved nothing but feeders. I am aware that it is just hopes but cmonā€¦ Casinos have better odds. 3 tc20s for last monthā€¦ 1 kelile. ā€¦ Tons of 3 stars. How many Friar tucks does one need? It hurts.

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Indeed, the Damascus blade and mysterious tonics that I got from the Atlantis summons are the only salve for those wounds.

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I get that for sureā€¦ Takes the sting outā€¦ A little. But whats the point in mats when you have NOTHING to use them on.

The odds are what they are, clearly posted. Itā€™s a risk we all sign up for when we push the Summon button.
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If you donā€™t like the odds, donā€™t do the summons. There are plenty of players who excel at this game while spending little or nothing.

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