830s soon enough? wow. A non costumed Joon/Leo have 752 power. Think weâve hit the 7* level at this point
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Just replying because my interest was piqued and I wanted to see the math myself, not to disagree or argue 
If we go off of the power level difference between s1 4* and s1 5*, 6* would be around 890 or 870, depending on how you measure.
From my roster un emblemmed, no limit break, no costume, but maxed I have Khagan at 757, Colen at 643.
By % increase:
757(Khagan)/643(Colen) = 1.177.
1.177 * 757(Khagan)=891 for a 6*
By numeric increase:
757(Khagan)-643(Colen) = 114
757(Khagan)+114 = 871 for a 6 *
However, this may not be an accurate measurement of where 6* would be. While 5* are about 117% higher (114 pts) than 4*, a 4* is about 145% stronger (202 pts) than a 3*, so it is unclear where a 6* power level âshouldâ be. Further 3* is about 132% higher (102 pts) than 2*, so there isnât a clear pattern to how much power levels increase per * level.
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Iâve just fought a buffed Penolite with a 3 rounds of Stone skinâŠit is just atrocious. You need to hit her with 3 tiles so load her hard, or give her fiend or some DoT, to get rid of it - this costs you time.
You can of course have cSabina, if she is able to survive, or try to get a new Panther or Hypnos to block her skin. Or Onyx, if you are Lucky to pull him from the 482 ninja available.
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And yet Master Lepus is miles behind his colleagues from the same family, in stats.
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If you let them charge and use their skills in the upcoming challenge event, then they will be very hard to be taken out, and of course the stage effect can trigger this buff too.
They should then do the same with older ninjas, for example 
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Itâs a surprise to myself - because I likely wonât face these heroes in game very often - but all I can think of when I read of them is, that a nerf can happen just like that.
I canât imagine how it must feel like, chasing after them with real money upon release, only to see them nerfed later.
I donât even know why it bothers me so much - itâs not like every new hero gets nerfed recently - quite the opposite actually (right, or?). I guess some things just sound âtoo good to be allowed to be trueâ.
Good luck up there, both getting them, keeping them intact and battling against them 
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Whatâs funny is these stat increases will not matter in a month or two when they release even stronger heroes lol. They do it for money clearly, but the way power is moving up so fast, even their own idea from November doesnât match what the strength of the gargoyles theyre about to release.
I do believe a small portion of what they do is legitimate balancing. The event heroes are typically some of the strongest heroes in the game. You donât want to outclass older event heroes because youâve brought out new, stronger heroes.
They have two choices as far as I see it. They pull back and slow the releases so that people can use the heroes for a while and THEN move onto a new portal. I think this is ultimately what a lot of people want. But they chose the option of pumping out these nasty heroes. Now theyâre playing catch up so they donât ruin the other portals theyve already built. Iâm not glossing over the money grab, but there is some legitimate balancing going on imho.
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Staff has just announced that Hohenwerf will come later:
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Iâm sadâŠ. I was hoping to pull dupes of that guy 
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Delay the release of the most wanted, typical, right? Now the whales would pull two big rounds, instead of just one.
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Surprise surprise. Delay the big money-makerâs release so whales pull hard on two different occasions before theyâre all nerfed.
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I donât understand this narrative. All of these gargoyles are really good, is he the best? maybe? For my roster Iâm looking forward to Arco the most. This only increases my chance of getting Arco. I used him in Beta and he was very good, but Arco was still better, in my opinion, even after the nerf, especially when paired with Frosth and Pengi.
If they feel he is not ready for prime time then, he is not ready. If they released him and he was broken people would be complaining about that too. That mindless attack at fast speed is probably too strong and they are probably having internal deliberations about how to fix it. Iâd rather they delay it until the next portal rather than nerf it later and cause another krampus/telly fiasco.
We have not seen that Gargoyle in the background.
Maybe that Gargoyle on their way to Beta later this year.
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Can Hatter steal their Stoneskin buffs ?
It is undispellable, but I am not sure if that protects again stealing or not.
If you can check that can it steal other undispellable buffs, then you can answer this.
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Buff blocker best option then.
Followed by buff strippers like G Chameleon n Lepiota.
Anchor tried stealing the Stoneskin with The Hatter during a recent Youtube stream â did not work.
Also, he tried Malosi to block the Stoneskin â this did not work either.
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I am upset that Hohenwerf has been delayed, I was hoping to get him. Theyâve never done this before (at least to my knowledge) with events where they postpone 1 hero. They do that with the seasons and only the challenge festival costumes.
I will still do pulls hoping for Arco but definitely not as many as before, now I will save my gems for next monthâs wizard tower
With that picture of another gargoyle, makes me wonder if they are planning on releasing gargoyles one at a time or more in the future like they did with the old events (added Black knight to Avalon, Finley to Pirates, etc). You can see in Version 48 notes, they mentioned âmore to comeâ after the list of gargoyles. With the last event heroes, they were released much later so I wouldnât expect new ones to come soon but clearly HoHenwerf is delayed and thereâs artwork for a new one