If you change Noor to Norns, I totally agree 
haha
i need to remind myself to take an appointment from my eye doctor. time to change reading glassās 
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Thanks for replying.
Iām of the opinion that a secondary effect should do something on defense, even if they have to rework the entire ability. Itās absurd and bizarre that they feature this hero on several Season 3 maps and her secondary effect does literally nothing there also. I donāt get many 5* heroes but I feel like I only got half of one with her. Hopefully they manage to fix that!
I like my Thorne honestly. Even against green tanks Iāll still bring him in a 3-2 red + blue team for his skill damage.
His hit is quite powerful on the target he aims for, and even the splash damage itself is nothing to sneeze at either. For me anyways heās quite helpful on attack combined with some cSonya support (gotta cleanse those nasty ailments). With a mana troop level 15, his hit can either finish off the tank or kill a flank if the tank is done by that point.
Thorne gets a bad rep, but honestly I think most of that is due to his previous less good version before his last buff. Now I think heās a good classic.
M. Lepus is the better version of him (he hits faster and harder). But thatās fine, thatās why M. Lepus comes with a drawback, since heās basically a faster Thorne.
Damage multipliers of ātargetā from Lepus skill above, Thorne skill below:
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Thorne is good. He does more damage than Lianna (over 3 heroes instead of 1 obviously). He will get a 5% attack bump to help with power and a 5% mana bump to make him basically āfastā via the upcoming costume. He will be great IMO when that comes. He is unfairly bashed as a poor hero and that simply isnāt true anymore.
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Roc needs a buff. Heās BIG trash.
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You may have convinced me to give him a try. He is currently sat at 3/70. But I have the spare mats.
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Baldur is actually totaly useless. This boost is not sufficient to make him usable. I feel hopeless for Baldur
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Iāll admit Iām seeking a Thorne. I believe if I end maxing one someday Iāll enjoy Thorne more than Richie.
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Agree, average mana speed is way useful than 360% attacking power.
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Really ? Based on my past experience of raids towards maxed Thorne and Lianna, Liannaās special skill is more fatal, and she does attack faster due to fast mana speed. Throneās specal skill of minor damage to nearby ememies is near useless to be honestā¦ Throneās special skill damaging power need to be buffed.
Liannaās special is definitely more fatal as her damage is concentrated on one hero. Thornes is spread over three, so while the damage is higher itās less likely to kill. Lianna is definitely the better hero (by far), but Thorne is pretty good. He gets more grief than he deserves is all Iām saying. There are worse heroes out there.
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Yes she is sniper while Throne is soft sniper, but Lianna has higher attack power (729 vs 638), damaging power in total is huge.
Damaging power of minor damage to nearby ememies should be increased, otherwise Throne is ever outperformed by Lianna and I think most of the players are willing to use Lianna.
Sniper is fast single target.
Marjana is soft sniper.
Thorne is not sniper. He is tank like Richard.
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oicā¦ due to his average mana speedā¦
I use him exclusively on offense, his special as a counter to Li Xiu, Leonidas, Guin, LoTL, Mitsukoā¦basically any of the mana thieves and he is annoying to boot. Yes he is niche, but useful niche!
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+1 this. Even if the special skill remains as it is, the mana speed needs to be average. Khagan compared to Thorne, Richard or even more recently buffed Atomos, needs some more love as he would still be far from being OP. Would this break the current meta? I seriously doubt it. Would it mean we could start using Khagan in our mono teams? I seriously believe that.
#makeKhaganaverage
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It would definitely save him. Because he is a hit 3,and who else is hit 3 on avg speed? Yeah, Falcon so they could be a good 1-2 punch.
Exactly. If you look at it from your point of view even Elkanen, that gets a lot of bad rap, is indeed fast. Hits three, could pair him with Evelyn and suddenly he is a decent hitter. We need Khagan at average speed, thatās his only redemption.
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So, 1 million dollar question now is: which minions canāt Skadi kill by herself? I know minions inherit HP from their caster and due to emblems, that could vary a lot, but the goal here is just have a general ideal. For example, I think itās safe to assume Noorās and Freyaās minions would survive Skadiās sweep unless they are already weakened.
Using a scale from Inari to Noor, could any beta tester provide us feedback on which of these are killed fairly confidently and which are not?
Minion caster: inherited HP
Inari: 8%
Mother North, Santa Claus and Puss in Boots: 10%
Delilah and Telluria: 13%
Lady of the Lake and Red Hood: 14%
Thorn (druids): 15%
Queen of Hearts: 16%
Seshat: 18%
Freya and Thoth-Amun: 20%
Noor: 25%
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