🧪 Early Information on Costumes (Formerly Skins) [Part of The Beta Beat v23, v24 & v25]

[princess1]

Well now that you point it out I can find it

I think I was a little overwhelmed by the discussions regarding the costumes themselves. When players were referring to it as an “event”, I realized I was missing something.

Thanks!

[jinbatsu]

@zephyr1

Costumes are leveled per Hero while on the Hero, so it’ll start at 1-1 when you put it on a new copy of the Hero.

The Costume leveling progress is never lost on a particular Hero, but it also doesn’t carry over to additional copies of that Hero.

So if you for instance had two maxed copies of Rigard and put Dapper Noble onto one of them and maxed the Costume, when you put Dapper Noble onto the second Rigard it would be at 1-1 on the second Rigard, and remain maxed on the first Rigard. You can then have the Costume on either, both, or neither of the two Rigards, and it will maintain the level it’s at on each of them as you switch the Costume on and off.

One question, if I have 2 Rigard, and get 1 costume, level both Rigard in that 1 costume.
After that, I get dup costume, so can we use both Rigard with costume separate, so that I can bring 2 Rigard with costume? Or we should level with new dup costume?

I’ll explain more clearer, I’m sorry my english is not good.
Rigard 1# and Rigard 2# leveling with costume 1#.
Now both can have advantage with that costume, but only one with costume can join in Raid/Map, etc.
Then, next come dup costume, should Rigard level again from 1.1 if we want Rigard use costume 2#?

Thanks

[zephyr1]

@jinbatsu

After that, I get dup costume, so can we use both Rigard with costume separate, so that I can bring 2 Rigard with costume? Or we should level with new dup costume?

You only ever need one copy of the Costume. You can use it on as many copies of the Hero as you want.

There’s no use for duplicate Costumes other than leveling other Costumes.

[jinbatsu]

@zephyr1

You only ever need one copy of the Costume

So I can bring 2 Rigard (both costumed version), with only one costume?

[LucasDaoc]

Yes, but you need to level the costume seperately on each Rigard.

[jinbatsu]

OK cool, yes I already explain both is leveling separate, so 2 Rigard costumed version join together with only one costume, great!

[robin102]

@zephyr1

Mana Bonus: 5%

Anyone may give analysis on this change, how it affects slow or average heros?

How about the AM required to upgrade costume? Assume that it should be stable now

[FraVit93]

@robin102

Anyone may give analysis on this change, how it affects slow or average heros?

Slow heroes with a high level mana troop (+15%) and increased mana generation gained trough emblems would charge with 10 tiles baseline:
15%+5%+2% = 22%
1.22*10 > 12

Average heroes with their same build would still charge with 9 tiles without a mana generation buff such the one granted by Khagan’s special. But with a further bonus mana generation from HOTMs they could charge with 8 tiles:
15%+5%+4%+2% = 26%
1.26*8 > 8

@robin102

How about the AM required to upgrade costume? Assume that it should be stable now

In the last beta only 3* materials were required to ascend costumes but the max level they could get were the same as the uncostumed hero ascension tier’s limit were.

[zephyr1]

@robin102

How about the AM required to upgrade costume? Assume that it should be stable now

@FraVit93

In the last beta only 3* materials were required to ascend costumes but the max level they could get were the same as the uncostumed hero ascension tier’s limit were.

Rumor has it this may be tweaked for Epic Costumes, so keep an eye out for a possible update in the next Beta.

[StephenNap89]

Beta? I thought the costumes were already implemented in the live game? We just haven’t had an event yet…

[zephyr1]

Doesn’t stop them from changing things before release. Or after, for that matter.

But I think we’ll see some last tweaks to Costumes leading up to their release.

[Ozy1]

@R0BlN

You will earn some keys that can be used in a portal to summon a 3* costume…

This is the part that baffles me at the moment @zephyr1

The OP says we will receive costume keys from rewards, MV, chests, titan, wars, etc etc, but yet all I hear is they are only available during the costume quests.

@zephyr1

Using 5 Costume Keys. These work like Atlantis Coins — if you have 5 of them, you can get a free Summon. The tooltip for Keys currently says they can be received as a reward from Wanted Missions, Titan Battles, Alliance Wars, and Challenge Events. As of the second Beta, there are also now Costume Quests, where you can earn Costume Keys as well.

I just don’t understand why these keys are NOT available before the summons appears like Atlantis Coins if they are receivable in rewards.
Does this mean that keys will only ever be available as rewards in the above mentioned reward options DURING the costume quests/events and NOT inbetween.

[zephyr1]

@Ozy1

I just don’t understand why these keys are NOT available before the summons appears like Atlantis Coins if they are receivable in rewards.
Does this mean that keys will only ever be available as rewards in the above mentioned reward options DURING the costume quests/events and NOT inbetween.

I’m assuming that the Costume Keys will start showing up in loot after Costumes launch.

But it’s also possible that they may decide not to include them in loot, and the tooltip will be updated.

[StephenNap89]

Wish they would let us save up keys… seems like people will get a max of one summon unless they spend. Normally, I would but the timing is terrible. Did any one else take a closer look at the schedule? Morlovia ends, we go right into Wonderland(basically), followed by costumes, Atlantis, then right into Christmas. They are gonna have their hand out basically every day for the rest of the year… It’s caused me to pass on a few deals I normally would have taken.

[GrootBeard]

I guess pick your poison on where you want to spend. Only the really big spenders can have it all.

[zephyr1]

Beta Update

The new version of Beta has been released with some balance changes to Costumes:

@zephyr1

• Fixed the rounding of stats affected by Costume Bonus.
• Epic Costumes now require one Rare Ascension Item that can’t be received from map stages instead of 3 Rare Ascension Items that can be received from map stages.

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Additionally, the tooltip for Costume Keys now indicates that they can be received from Costume Quests, and no longer lists other sources:

@zephyr1

• The tooltip for Keys currently says they can be received as a reward from Wanted Missions, Titan Battles, Alliance Wars, and Challenge Events. As of the second Beta, there are also now Costume Quests, where you can earn Costume Keys as well.As of November 5, the tooltip says, “This item can be received as a reward from Costume Quests.”

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I have updated the top post of this thread accordingly.

[BigLordF]

While I do see the intent behind it, this is an illogical solution.

First, the costume should be considered as a separate hero, no matter who dons it. When you put the mask and cape on, it doesn’t matter who is behind the mask, to you it’s Batman, or Superman, or whoever tickles your fancy.

Second, the way they have construed it, it forces players indirectly to use the costume on unleveled heroes. Say I have one maxed Lianna and one costume for her. After I max the costume on her I get a second Lianna. Even though I have completed two full ascends, I can’t use two maxed Liannas simultaneously though, no matter how you combine them, so my only option is to max either the second Lianna, or the costume on the second Lianna. Which results in me having to maximize three separate heroes technically, in order to have the option of playing two of them simultaneously.

I believe they did this with war in mind, so people like me, with three Kadilens but (eventually) only one costume, can fully ascend the costume three separate times and get three maxed costumed Kadilens for war. But surely they could find a way around this.

[zephyr1]

@BigLordF

After I max the costume on her I get a second Lianna. Even though I have completed two full ascends,

Leveling and Ascending a Costume is considerably easier/faster/fewer Ascension Materials than a Hero, so it’s not entirely “two full ascends.”

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@BigLordF

so my only option is to max either the second Lianna, or the costume on the second Lianna.

You can’t max a Costume on a hero that isn’t in Final Ascension already…so this isn’t really an option.

[Scarecrow]

@zephyr1 do we know what item is required?

I mean, whether is a known classic item or an unique item we don’t know yet.

[BigLordF]

Thanks. The thread is too convoluted now to get an answer so I’m sure I missed the answer to this.

If you need to bring a hero to a final ascension in order to fully ascend the costume, I don’t get how "Leveling and Ascending a Costume is considerably easier/faster/fewer Ascension Materials than a Hero.” You still need to use 6 Tonics, 1 Damascus Blade, 4 Shields, and 1 Tome of Tactics, to bring Lianna in our hypothetical to the Final Ascension, before I can start leveling and ascending her costume.

Further, if I get to that point, it makes no sense to me to leave Lianna at 4-1, I will definitely take her to 4-80. So I will end up with two full ascends anyway. And I will need the other maxed Lianna in order to have the option of playing two Liannas simultaneously.

Am I missing something?

P.S. Thanks for your time and patience. You and the other mods do great work around here.