Interestingly, whether or not the term is disrespectful can be defined in a general sense and may be deducted from the intent in context of the user of the term, but in reality depends on the reception by the target audience of the term.
I think the term is common good among gamers by now, but that doesn’t mean some can still be offended by it. I for one don’t see it as disrespectful, but then again I’m not a whale myself, I’m a modest sardine.
I also think the gaming companies will seek to avoid the term, because while probably okay among fellow gamers - as long as not used as an expression of disdain - the companies will seek to use terms that are more suitable to express their appreciation of their customers.
We have literally handed out Nobel Prizes to those who demonstrated that humans are not rational creatures (see Thaler, Kahnemann, Akerlof). We often make strange, illogical choices that are not in our own interests. To attribute this behaviour to people being “stupid” is just facile: there are some excellent evolutionary reasons for humans having developed in the way we have.
We are all, to varying degrees, suggestible, compulsive, superstitious and addictive. Free will is by no means a fiction, but it is overrated to a serious extent: humans are more like well-clothed apes than junior gods. And just as apes can be manipulated with a banana, so can we, if you find the right banana.
So in some circumstances consumer protection regulation is justified and necessary: where a straight dopamine dump is the essence of a transaction, for example (as with slot machines, though probably not E&P). Or where short term needs are to be weighed against long term consequences (as with payday loan organisations). Or where there is an insurmountable informational asymmetry (exactly like E&P, though this is mitigated by much of the information available in this very forum).
People don’t get manipulated by this stuff because they are stupid, people get manipulated by this stuff because we’re just meat machines that have evolved to be manipulated by it. Some are more easily manipulated than others in particular areas, of course, but (deny it as we might) we all have our weak spots. We’re only human.
@Brobb Brobb, your articulation is my bananna of manipulation. Whether I agree or not, I’m always transfixed by the cascade of logic.
Adding something vaguely on topic, addiction management forms a big part of my day job, and I can vouch for the fact that I have seen some really, really bad decisions made by otherwise normal, rational people.
True, but there’s a limit to how far and deep that information spreads. There’s droves and droves of players that never ever read the forum. I’m our Alliance’s Forum Herald. But I’ve never needed to explain the poor shots at hero summons. Chats about everyone’s next summon result do all that for me. You know, another Friar Suck.
Yes this game is pure gambling. Because you paid for something you cant confirm. For example paying to get heroes but you cant get heroes did you need.
It’s a convo that has gone round and round for a couple years now
F2p players won’t have the same advantages of p2p
That’s just the way it is
People need to accept that fact and move on
If they still want to compete, they can but it takes doing more than complaining to do it.
Have seen some pretty competitive f2p players and they’re not the ones vocally complaining in the forums…
Sure some things i feel may go too far like the difference in rewards for valor pass between the pay version and the free version is a giant difference but other things like costumes, emblems, troops, paywall heroes, ascension mats, etc are just the way they are.
Paying players have always paid to save time, that principle will forever be part of E&P. Those that can’t accept that reality, should do themselves a favor and find another game…
We have a couple FTP in our alliance and super super c2p and if they start complaining we tell them the same thing, you know what you gotta do to change it or speed things up, just like everyone else here, same options. yet somehow a group of people want to constantly name call a group of people who are hindering their progress in no way at all, I think the funny part is some of us know how little we spend and here the stories of a few people who spent to much at times. My spending is way cheaper than when I was single and out on the scene
Well I certainly wasn’t complaining in this thread and I certainly don’t want to raise it here but you are pretty familiar with my views on lootboxes and how they encourage wallet dumps with little results, particularly the vulnerable
Yeah but if you set a budget you dont get so angry when you have that set of bad spins. Everything comes back around and most people dont have all the heroes even some of the biggest spenders.
Bout as bad as sayin every bar in the world should be shut down too cause alcoholics have lack of self control and accountability… This playerbase really makes me facepalm sometimes
Bars and casinos have one thing in common: barriers to kids’ entry
If games with lootboxes implement the same barriers to kids’ entry that’s half of my argument that is gone and I could probably shut up and be relatively happy without pestering anyone
See below posts from someone who has worked with casino permits before
