Worth it to ascend bad 5*?

Thanks for the input!

I will prioritise getting Grimm, Scarlett and Melendor levelled, so I can run them with Wu and Rigard.

Assuming I finally find a 4th sturdy shield, I assume maxing Melendor is a better idea than Caedmon or Littlejohn.

I’m not sure Cyprian, Owl, or Mok-Arr are the best use of my resources right now, so I’ll just wait for someone better.

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I like that ordering of 4*. Park the 5* heroes and work on those first.

Your purples are an issue. Cyprian is fine, even good, situationally. Riposte is good against AoE foes in raids and challenge events (Cyprian was essential to my beating legendary levels of Guardians of Teltoc the first time through—G. Kong shredded himself). But he won’t be a long-term core hero, as riposte starts to lose tactical value in upper platinum raids.

It depends some on how much you spend (if any). I think a 10x pull in the purple elemental summons would be a good investment. Are you running Training Camp 20 yet? Tibertus would be a great addition to your roster.


5* are a luxury
Not a necessity

Might as well wait for the luxuries you want instead of spending resources on those you don’t

4* gets you by all the way up to 11/12* titans and most players that dont already have maxed 5s aren’t hittin 11/12* titans.

To me “because it’s my only 5*” is the worst reason I can think of to max a 5*


Thank you for the advice. I will leave Magni, Aegir and Mitsuko where they are, and not bother with Owl or Mok-Arr at this stage.

I’m not at TC20 yet, and won’t be for a while. I’m close to enough gems for a 10x pull, but I was saving them for the next Atlantis summon? Is it worth it to wait?

I’m currently low platinum for raids so I don’t think starting on Cyprian now is a great idea. I forgot to mention I also have Sabina, but I figured she was just inferior to Rigard?

Also, on raid defense I’ve currently got BT tanking. Assuming my new best rainbow team will be Grimm, Rigard, Wu, Scarlett and Melendor, what order do I put them in? Or is that team purely for attacking?

Really appreciate the help!

I think I’d prioritize Melendor over Caedmon as you seem very light on healers. Caedmon is a very solid green 4* though and you’ll want to up him eventually.

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Raid defense

Unless your alliance requires a minimum trophy level, do not worry about raid / war defense.

Raids, and war, are generally speaking, won on attack. So having four rainbow 4* 3.60 teams ( twenty total ) and two rainbow 4* 4.70 teams ( plus ten for thirty total ) is usually the best use of Hero XP and 3* ascension items.

My defense

Left to right, I use ( all 4* 4.70 heroes), Melendor, Grimm, Rigard, Scarlett, right corner hero ( usually 4* 4.70 Wu Kong since my other choices are currently weaker).

This can keep me just below Platinum arena, so I can open Platinum Wanted hero mission chest when I am attacking.


Boldtusk works great at 4* 3.60 for attacking. Bonus he is a very good Fighter class hero so when you eventually get him to 4* 4.70, Boldtusk uses different emblems than Wu Kong, Rigard, Melendor, Grimm & Scarlett.


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Atlantis offers a stand-out purple 4*, Proteus. Trouble is the odds of getting him in a 10x aren’t great. What you need is purples, so I’d be inclined to do the elemental summons instead. (If you were closer on TC20, then I’d say to wait; Tibertus will show up eventually in TC20.)

Rigard is a better healer than Sabina. Sabina’s twist is the debuff of foes, but Caedmon or Melendor will do that.

BTW, I agree that Caedmon should come before Melendor, given Rigard. You will want to do all your healers at some point, though, to give you at least one healer per Alliance War team.

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Worth mentioning sabina has the highest tile damage of dark tc 4*?

Probly not but i am anyways since that played a part in my decision to max her, extra healer for war was a bonus


Too many people think of riposte as a defensive tool. I use it strictly as an offensive tool. With the exception of kage whi debuffs before he hits, it makes snipers and AoE people Ripp themselves apart. And you can time it better when on offense.

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But Caedmon does not work well with Wu Kong while Melendor does.

Wu Kong improves match/ board/ physical damage most because you get the most damage rolls with your match/ board/ physical damage so misses even out with the x2.85 Damage buff.

Caedmon is a tank ( defense & HP ) with lower match/ board/ physical damage where Melendor is a glass cannon ( high attack) high match/ board/ physical damage.

Melendor has one of the highest heals in the game ( 42% which means it scales with +HP from talent grid unlike Heal Over Time ) to heal himself and Wu Kong.

Both Melendor and Caedmon dispell, and can miss when dispelling while Gambler’s Stance is active, but Melendor’s 42% heal is unaffected by Gambler’s Stance miss chance while Caedmon’s Special skill Damage can miss.

Melendor works well with Rigard in manual or auto play because he uses a different color mana so he fills up at a different time than Rigard.


I am looking for suggestions what to do with several sets of warm capes. I already gave Grimm(4-57), Boril(4-34) Kiril(4-40). I have a second Kiril(2-60) and Isarina(3-55) waiting but then I pulled Thorne. Do I stay with kiril2 and Isarina of hold the two set fromThorne. ( I have the toy for 5* blue leveling). I am thinking of eventually replacing Soyna(3-2) with Throne but it is 110 levels before the I couod use the first set of capes

My other healer are Melendor(3-56), Vivica(3-55) and Rugard(4-6)

I have Drake(3-55), Vivica(3-55), Joon(3-13) and Leonidas(3-1) I have the toys to raise one these to thier final step, which on. Viv seems to die before she can get her special off

I agree. I’ve never used any riposter in defense. Though I use a Cyprian who’s only at like 3.1 or so in every war and punch out / severely damage one team significantly above the team power I brought.

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No, no, not Thorne. Isarnia is a great choice. Yes, she’s slow mana, but she hits like a freight train. Take her on titan battles, toss a big mana pot at her at the right moment, and you’ll do really well. I still face a lot of Isarnia in Diamond defenses.

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Why Wu Kong on defense if you have li xiu? Also I think Caedmon is a better choice than melendor because melendor defensive stats are pretty low so he ends up dying before he gets to heal very often but Caedmon has decent stats all around, fast mana hitter he’s just more useful in more situations. Also little John is really good too but more as an attacking hero than defending hero again because of defense stats.

All 3*'s: Ok, I’ve got Balthazar (like) use on titans. I’ve had prisca (dislike). Renfeld & Oberon I’ve fought, Renfeld easier to beat. Best 4* I believe is Cyprian cause of the counterattack is wicked.
5*'s purple Quintus, Obama, & Sartana really bad a$$ in that order (fought), Finally Domitia I’d love 2 personally have, but haven’t had any experience with. Good Luck out there. :+1::slight_smile:

I’ve had Wu Long & Li Xiu didn’t like either, used them for My Sonic Bear…

That’s strange because hu Tao and li xiu have almost the same stats except hu Tao has slow mana instead of li xius average mana. And blind is a good ability but preventing enemy specials going off by mana cut is better. Also Wu Kong is a staple hero for titans if you want to increase your average score.

so finish off Isarnia and second Kiril before touching Thorne? would u keep leveling Soyna to keep the war team balanced?

Yes, I’d do:

  • Isarnia
  • Kiril#2
  • Sonya
  • Thorne?

Thorne is widely viewed as a weak 5*. I’d hold off work on him in the hopes that a better option comes along.

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