Why Thoth-Amun Needs a Buff

Let’s face it, Thoth-Amun is one of the worst HOTM. I mean an HOTM is exclusive and so his stats/power should be. And in no world anyone would rather ascend him over a Sartana, which is not an HOTM but a standard lineup hero.

If we compare with the recent Drake aka Bruce Lee, it’s a complete no match. I picked him because they have similarities… until a certain level :

  • Both are Fast
  • Both have a 3 targets skill
  • But Drake has a 270% against 215% for Thoth
  • And Drake has slightly better stats (2792 cumulative power VS 2786)

And I don’t even mention the blind, which is a huge crowd control effect by itself nor the color buff given by the Element Link.

The minion that pops out of Thoth’s skill is ridiculous. Worse than that, it is a complete drawback when fighting a titan. And in no way this ridiculous minion justifies or is on par with :

  • That huge 55% skill damage difference
  • That dreadful Blind
  • That Element Link team buff

I think buffing heroes is more profitable in the long run than nerfing, and Drake should stay as it is. But TA needs either a buff or a rework. Even matching the same damage than Drake on the skill is not enough. I think an honest buff would be:

- Change the skill damage to at least 270%
- Either double the stats of the minion, or make it pop for the whole team like Delilah does

Objectively there is no reason not to buff him, and, at the very least, to match his skill damage with Drake’s. As far as the secondary skill go, it is weak as it is, if not completely useless. Please consider these changes.

If you support this idea, please smash the “Vote” button above this thread.

[Edit] Quote from Aegir’s thread before his own buff :

Aegir is good but he is underpowered for an hotm. This is a reasonable buff.

Same applies to Thoth. He is underpowered for an HOTM.

[Edit 2]List of buffs suggested by the community :

I completely agree with this request and your analysis backing it. I do have a maxed Thoth because he was the only 5* Dark I had for a very long time. I got tired of waiting for someone better. I have several such now, and I’d like those tabards back…

Both excellent suggestions. Thoth hits too weakly, and that singleton minion is simply not recompense.


If those changes are made, should he be nerfed to average mana?

It would be even worse. Thus it is no longer a buff.

That would imply changing Drake’s speed too, and there is no reason to do so.

I just mean if he does minions for all? I dont have delilah but isnt her mana average?

Delilah is a fantastic healer. That’s why she’s set on average speed.

And if Thoth did all minion for his team, that would make a decent reason to ascend him.


True just think minions for all would be better at average mana then possibly give the minions a perk or something

Something. Even with my 4* non maxed team, he wasnt really feared.

Thoth Amun is a Mummy. He must need buffer to get out from the underworld.
Even in the Anceint Egyptian methods King Tout was young fool dude who died cause he was stupid.
Now lets reflect this to the game.
Who would give a stupid ghost a massive power?


With the changes the OP proposed (beefed up single minion), he’s still not as effective as Drake Lee. Drake is Fast. If he gave minions to all, I’d think that would be too strong.

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I have been holding onto my Thoth for about a year now trying to find a reason to max him. I just can’t seem to find one. Lately, my six tabbards have been itching for a home in my defense team. I have Thoth, Quintus, and Domitia waiting for upgrades. I don’t have Sartana (and am not really sure I want a fifth sniper) and I am finished blowing money on pathetic chances for something better. It’s TC-20 from now on for me. Thoth is fast, but Quintus is stronger. I wonder if Thoth would make a good tank (with two or three minions protecting him). But, is that good enough?

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Bump because 20 chars.

Bump. This deserves to reach at least 50 votes.

I have Thoth-Amun maxed and he is great imo, but I see all of your points, for a HotM he is lackluster. I think if he poisoned the three targets he struck or giving him a bite like Morgan’s, that would be enough of a buff instead of changing the amount of damage he does or giving everyone one of his minions.


I read a description of Thoth-Amun’s skills “summons an undead helper for each ally with 20% hit points and 15% for an attack taken from a hero”
Either the translation is inappropriate or the description resembles that of heroes like Mother of the North, Santa Claus, and Delilah.
If the description is correct, it seems to me that Thoth-Amun should summon a helper for each ally.
Please, explain this to me.

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How disappointing and frustrating can be when you spend 2800 gems for thirty, I mean 30 (!!!) heroes on the Atlantis call and the only 5s you get is TA (besides the many double/triple 3s heroes I got).

And then you read this post and know already nothing will ever be done to improve him. Out of all the 5s I could get… why TA?!?

Does this make someone feel like spending more for a chance to get a better hero?. No, it does not. It puts you off and makes you don’t want to spend more for this money-sinkhole game.

I think improving him would be highly desiderable and I agree with the OP ideas.

Thoth-Amun was the first minion-caster introduced in the game, so it was a bit of an experiment. Apparently SGG decided that the all-ally minions were the way to go when they introduced Delilah, the second minion-caster. FWIW, Thoth’s minions:

  1. Are the beefiest in the game
  2. Are the only minions from a Fast mana hero
  3. Have the potential to trigger the Sorcerer Delay skill each and every turn

#3 is actually a really nice buff that I haven’t seen discussed much. He could be an awesome mana control specialist.

To @D3J4VU73’s point, the developers have promised a set of hero “rebalancing” in Version 20 (Version 19 was just released). Maybe T-A will be given a little love.


Thank you for the consideration in replying to my disappointment :slight_smile:
I will look forward for the patch, then :wink:

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the only vote for buff i got is for him to be very fast. also:

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