Why is pulling Norns like losing £1 & finding 1p!

Well, no, in a lot of cases.

For example it is very difficult to pull guardian panther. So many rosters will not have a great hitting team vs yellow titans. On the flip side it is - relatively - easier to get a strong hitting team vs purple titans with guardian jackal much easier to obtain.

So a yellow team with norns will get much better scores than a mono 4* purple team.

On titans where items are used this is not much of an issue. Or at least not any more of any issue than fielding any other team. No hero/team can perform if you don’t get the tiles. And regarding rads I never said she was great in raids, just that she has some use there.

As always, depends on your roster. If you don’t make many pulls then it is better to learn how to use what you have effectively than to hoard your mats forever

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Yes. Spend lots of money, pull dupes galore and then smear the forum chastising the struggling folks that they need to git gud and learn to play. It never gets old and is continually entertaining.

Do you have a frame of reference?
Have you practiced this philosophy?
These are rhetorical questions :wink:
You’re getting close to benched 5*
Keep it up!

:point_up_2:BBLALAAHHAHAHHAHHAHA!
Yeah ok :+1:

I have Norns.
I like Norns!
I absolutely love her artwork!
…and… I use her from time to time

Here’s the thing about niche heroes:

  • Hooray you got the Rush Niche Hero!
  • Booo you didn’t get the Anti-minion Niche Hero…
  • Hooray you got Mythic Niche Hero!
  • Booo you didn’t get the Stack Niche hero…

it’s… expensive…!

And for someone who is desperately working on versatility, so they can be more "effective" … then, a niche hero will obviously have to do…

For everyone else, there’s always mythic titans!
Weeeeeeee

@Dudeious.Maximus this should probably be merged maybe

[📯 Norns – Season 3 Hero – 5* Holy/Yellow: Thoughts, Discussion & Summon Results with Feedback]

[Fix / Buff / Adjust Norns]

I like using Norns for offensive raids so much I limit broke her. I pair her with Costume Vivica and rotate in 3 heroes of the color that are strong versus the tank. After you kill the tank, Norns can add a second week color to one side so you can quickly clear an opponent.

I agree she is not a hero to put in your defense team, but you don’t need 30 heroes on defense. For wars she is great vs rainbow teams.

As mentioned by @Pompitous she is excellent vs Mythic titans as well. Turning weak to strong colors can lead to major damage since the titan only weakensc one color.

I think Norns is severely underrated as a B- hero.

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Regardless of one’s perspective on whether the Norns is great, average or bad, niche, better paired with heroes that most players don’t have or whatever you want her to be, the fact is, she has a special skill that does not work on defense. That should make the skill itself broken thus the clamor of some of us to get it fixed.

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Elemental defense down doesn’t work for defense teams either. Yet I don’t see anyone complain that those heroes are useless. Has anyone ever complained about drawing Guardian Panther? Not to my knowledge,

Norns isn’t the only offense specialist…

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I use her with a rainbow team.

Cascades are exquisite

For other than double formations… I find the 3 lanes do not cooperate often enough for me to give emblems let alone LB.

She’s not the worst S3 imo
Far from the best tho

Yes, not great defense, however…
Her dispel will still work

And the def down will too!

But Norns… no effect…!

Just wanted to add to the chorus of “who cares if Norns aren’t good on defense?”

The only time that matters is very early in your playing career. And even then, only for a shortish while.

Being able to field a very strong second team for mythic titans is valuable. Maybe less valuable to some than to others, but it’s a pretty big deal if you do care about mythics. (And the fact that Norns can be just as effective in that role at 3/70, as they would when maxed, is just icing on the cake.)

There are other S3 heroes that’d be better for almost everyone, sure. But I’d much rather pull Norns than any of the S1 yellow 5s, except Joon. Norns have their uses. Don’t dismiss them altogether, like you should if you pull (for example) Atomos, Perseus, Margaret, Mok-Arr, Bai Yeong, Zulag, Mica, or Inari (just to name a few other paywall heroes).

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Only for her own subsequent attacks though (unless your defense includes a second Dark hero, which is rarely advisable).

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(Note: I actually don’t think Mok-Arr is worthless. He’s definitely “niche at best,” but can be part of a devastating mono Dark AOE attack team, if you have other heroes that also fit that mold. In rush format, a team of cRigard, cTiburtus, Quintus, Mok, and pretty much any other hitter will wipe out a defense in six or seven tiles, depending on your mana troop situation.)
(ETA: I suppose you could do something similar with Atomos)

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Inari and Perseus ok…
But some of the others are debatable.

I loved Margaret next to my Gazelle!
on offense!

And Mok-Arr just needs the right team:

:yum:

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Great minds think alike! (and so do ours!) :joy:

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How does this work? Does Marg and whoever’s on the other side of her keep her buff when gazelle fires? Or is the synergy simply that Marg speeds gazelle up?

Edit: oh. Duh. She keeps gazelle alive sometimes too.

I never endorse prioritizing a hero for defensive reasons. Offensive heroes are the ones you get to play with!
I really don’t care about her inept skill for def.

I just can’t agree that Mythic Titans and any other rare occasion, validates her offensively either. Of all the niches… her’s is most narrow! And not so overwhelming in that niche that I can endorse it for others.
She’s different, and that drew me too her. I feared extinction for unique skills in 2020.

I dunno… I still use her.
Like I said.

Yeah, she kept Gazelle alive often! Probably more often now that damage has increased. But I traded Margaret for the more versatile C.Kadilen
Back when I too…
Was blowing dough :money_mouth_face:

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Hahaha truuuuue

(That said, my dough blowing has resulted, among other things, in being in an alliance that wants to do well against mythics, and i always want top 1% total damage, so I use my 3/70 Norns for four hits each month, and am quite pleased with the results. Yeah, the application is narrow af, but it’s better than whatever I’d be fielding in that teams’ place instead, and that’s good enough for me. I’m also leveling a second Jott for the same reason. Very advanced late-game stuff, but like I keep saying… it’s better than not having the option!)

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Like minded indeed

This was… before I got tired of the forum, my primary point in any balance thread. Trying to connect from someone with options to someone without is exhausting.

Options are expensive man…

Good luck! :relieved::v:

Well, i mean, this thread is about OP, and whether or not norns is a good option for him to have, right? In conclusion, i vote yes. :slight_smile:

Congratulations tho :slightly_smiling_face: hmmmmm… I actually pulled to get exactly - Norns. It’s not only MT but I find her also useful in Raid Tournaments to play around with restricted elements. Sadly I didn’t get her. Next time :relaxed:

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Wow!
Reading your comment & maSSive disappointment, I am wondering, whether you, by any chance plan to feed away Norns, to save yourself from further pain !

Instead of learning from what is shared here, you are cribbing about moRe things that you don’t have :rofl:
&
would urge you to read the card properly, again = While Norns makes targeted hero weak against what it is strong, it stay weak against the colour it is weak… :wink:

Well, tried sharing useful experience… but guess, you will find your way :rofl:

have FuN !

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I fully agree with you, Norns is a dud… seems like evey season has one and S2 had inari… who can sit thru stage 1-2-3 and 4 with a full manabar only for it to fizzle and fail once Bosses and opponent manabars appear.

But back to Norns, first out the Vanaheim 5%manaburn: when does it shine?.. -on defense!.. does a sane player use norns on defense?
-NO!
280% damage on 3 over 770 attack is that strong?
-Not particularly at avg speed for a legendary.
The target and nearby are weak against the color they are normally strong against?
-Congratulations all of you who play offensively in five, four or three different colors…
-Congratulations to you who does not stack up on color vs titans.
-Congratulations all of you who see every ingame encounter as a juicy rpg adventure, with minstrels and harpmusic in the background.

If i want to do damage ill stack up on color, so what if Norns makes the target weak vs another color when the tiles landing does 1,1,1,1,1,1,1 damage a piece?

-good against mythic titans?.. srsly?.. if you dont stack up on color there youre disqualified for the rest of the season… and FYI, Devana with her kill all minions pet and dispelling ability run circles around Norns on any titan.

Couldnt she atleast be fast?

Aah, sorry i remembered the use of norns…
If you check the tournament calendar there is 1 out of 31 tournaments wich is 5* with no purple…
And once that occurs you can make 3 yellow enemies vulnerable to yellow for 4 turns…

-now this makes it all worth the darts/food/emblems/limitbreakers!..

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