Who to ascend next with my current line up? Wilbur or BoldTusk?

Lol I keep getting 5 star purples (3 now), and only have 2 tabbards. Two will be stuck at 2-60 until I either max out Khiona or Sartana. :thinking:

I have Khiona but not Sartana. I can tell you when facing them, I have a bit more fear of Sartana, but that might be because I have faced her fully leveled more often, and Khiona I have only faced partly leveled and not well paired with other heroes.

Not much help…hopefully someone with both can tell you their thoughts.

Wow. Just wow. Two of the best 5* you could have pulled, plus a good event 4*. I’d green-light Gretel before Chao. Boril has his uses but there are better blue heroes for most occasions.

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1 more orb and I can max out Wu Kong! So I am taking it that she should be next in line? I looked at 7dd rankings, she seems pretty good. Is she better on raid offense or defense (if you ever faced her)?

Excellent pulls. You might even get haters for this.

However, I faced both Sarti and Khiona in usual raids, Sarti is still the way to go unless you wanna up your titan score further. Sarti is great at both ends of raids. I would strongly recommend to go with Sarti.

To be honest, if you have better blue 4* then I would not recommend Triton depending on your teams synergy. Grimm and Kiril are probably the only blue 4* heroes you need and if you can pair them up with Magni, the combo is usually a sure kill on any hero.

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Gretel is better on offense where you can control who to mana burn. AI is stupid on defense most of the time.

Wu is a definite must up since its almost compulsory to use him to get good titan score with a 4*. Please nobody mention Tarlak since majority of the people dont have him. Also, is useful for revenge on players stronger than you. He gives you a fighting chance against them with his special although its a gamble sometimes. In the past, Wu and Jackal were the ones who helped me get to diamond when I have not upped my 5* heroes yet. These 2 are a great pair and you can add in Gretel to the mix.

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Well, it isn’t called Gambler’s Stance for nothing! :see_no_evil:


Thanks for the help! I haven’t pulled any other blues besides Triton & Magni atm. Two questions maybe you can help out with?

  1. I have Triton already 30 lvls from 3-60, should I finish him up to at least 3-60 b4 starting Magni? Or jump right into Magni?

  2. After I have both maxed Wu Kong and Gretel, if I still have no other yellow for defense, who would be my best bet in that situation for a rainbow defense?

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I would still go straight for Magni. Even at 3/70 he is still quite a monster on offensive raids. I have 6 tritons and no intention of upping any of them. I KNOW HE IS A FAST BLUE SNIPER! Grimm is still my one love for 4* blue. Kiril is next. I am extremely bias for these 2 as having more of them is always useful during AW.

Gretel definitely for defense between the 2. Wu is good for offense and helps you punch above your weight. Try to get Jackal from next guardian event. He is one of the few powerhouse 4* especially if you stack yellow.

I agree.

In raiding ( multiple rainbow 4* teams ) I will sometimes deliberately trigger the enemy spirit link to take out corner healers. From looking over many of the Atlantis heroes, I want them for war teams or raid teams but not necessarily titan teams. Wilbur’s buffs make him useful even against Titans ( Has anyone tried him against a reflect red titan ?)

I love the Ramming Pulverizer trio ( Notes RP trio ). Against neutral colors it is nice to pick between a glass cannon ( Grimm ), a shield ( Gormek ) or a jack-of-trades ( Tiburtus ). As you pointed out, against their strong color ( Grimm vs Red, Gormek vs Green, Tiburtus vs Yellow ) it is insane.

But the really nice thing is Grimm + Wu Kong is not as useful versus Green ( Grimm weak + Wu Kong neutral ) & Yellow ( Wu Kong weak + Grimm neutral ) bosses but Gormek + Wu Kong versus Green ( strong + neutral ) and Tiburtus + Wu Kong versus Yellow ( strong + weak ) bosses balances out very nicely. Either just luck, or good design.

Personally I have Boldtusk at 4* 3.60 ( maximum for farmable ascension materials ) mainly because his buff is so short ( Wu Kong outlasts it ) and his heal moderate ( Richard/ Melendor/ Sabina all 42% ). But Boldtusk is great for double strong or double strong & double neutral in war attack or raid attack.

RP Trio

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Thank you for the well thought out response. Now it makes me think I wouldn’t mind pulling Tiburtus just to have the trio for titan variety! Also, thanks for the link to other forum topic. I will def. be reading up on that!

Wilbur is superb against titans. I bring him to every Titan except blue. And red reflect.
Red reflect not only kills him quickly and inflicts lots of damage on the rest of the team (if his special is up), but it reflects back the damage debuff. Do not bring Wilbur into red reflect.


Can’t speak for use against red reflect titans, but Wilbur was surprisingly useful to me for completion in Epic tier of Grimforest, even with the defense reduction of his special reflected back on him.
I doubt he’s optimal for top scoring in that event, but he made keeping my party going much easier. Something for folks who’re struggling with just getting through to bear in mind perhaps.

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Good to know! Thank you for that. I am guessing you brought him to a red reflect and it didn’t turn out well haha

Wilbur, he will help with Titans and really hard event stages thus yields asscnsion items with which you can then raise BT.

On Gormek… you miss direct damage reds, which you do need in the end, so after Willy/BT I’d still level Gormek unless you pull a 5 star red. Yeah his attack is so-so, but against green it blows Grimm out of the water.

Yeah true, I didn’t really think about Gormek as a red addition to green titans. I am hoping to pull a red 5* soon, maybe Atlantis or Next Event. In the mean time i got 60 levels to go with Wilbur until max. BT is next in line though

Be aware that Gormek overwrites Wilbur for the worse. Because they are both Average mana heroes, these two don’t play nicely together unless you’re willing to hold Gormek’s special until after Wilbur’s has expired. And Gormek hits like a wet noodle. My Gormek is permanently retired from anything but AW.


With this roster which one would you ascend?
The first row is my main team I mostly use Boldtusk to support Kunchen’s slow mana, but I’ve been using Wilbur and he’s a best when he cast.

But now I’m working on the 2do row team with Delilah and Aeron + Wilbur’s buff might work out well.

I mostly enjoy raid wars (offense) and titans.

But only 4 blades. :frowning:

If you prefer titans, go with Wilbur. He is on every titan team except blue currently. He will have more use for you in raids, wars, and pretty much everywhere. The consensus is that Wilbur is one of the best 4s and should be maxed. Max out that Proteus asap once you have 4 trap tolls as well. IMO those 2 are the most versatile 4 heros, and could be turned into “five stars” with talent tree.

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