When will raid tournament loot be returned to original loot? [Developer Response in Post #194] Answer = Never :-(

Hi Petri,

" While I understand not all players are satisfied" … it hink it is most of the players.

“focusing our resources to bring new, exciting features to the game which will bring new ways to gain rewards”

Raid tournaments were advertised in the same way… as a major source of emblems and another source of getting ascension materials… right now these promises are not fullfilled in my humble opinion. So i have some doubts the new, exciting features will deliver what is advertised now after experiencing what was advertised and finally delivered with the raid tournaments…

Kind and sad regards,

Hermann

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That’s sad. I’m a moderate spender, but I know I won’t be spending gems to continue any longer starting with this tournament, which I just got knocked out of. When all that you get is Daily Summon Tokens and low numbers of Atlantis coins and every other item, even in 1% and 5%, it’s simply not worth it. There’s really not much difference between getting 1% and 10%. I can most likely finish all raid tournies in the top 10% without continues, so I’ll just take what comes for free, and that’s it.

EDIT: OK. I lied… I still buy back in. lol I have fun playing them and enjoy the challenge that they present, both for building a good defense team and structuring your attack teams to counter the threats on the other side within the confines of the rules set for the week. It really is a fun part of the game. If I’m gonna complain here and there, then I gotta give credit where it’s due. The Raid Tournies are fun for me.

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What a bummer, is what the loot is now even half of what it was on the first tourney (on the whole)?

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Alliance wars were a new, exciting feature which would bring a new way to gain rewards.
Wars are fun (because we, the players, make them fun), but the loot is awful. People have stopped caring about 100% war chests now after repeatedly finding scabbards, chainmail, 5 emblems etc.
Just like the elemental chest that a large number of players say they can’t get excited about anymore.

Raid tournaments were a new, exciting feature which would bring a new way to gain rewards.
You nerfed the loot “temporarily” into the ground and now you’re telling us it isn’t coming back because you’re working on something that’s probably gonna go the same way?

I want to point out that you are currently working on new, exciting buildings (and costumes :nauseated_face:) to the game which will bring new ways to suck gems out of players wallets.

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sigh this is VERY disappointing. The original loot tiers were awesome and gave us a reason to really care about how we finished. The current loot tiers don’t. I’ve only re-joined once and that was because I was flush with gems from the friend offer you had today. I can guarantee you that I won’t be spending any more gems on tournaments going forward.

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I made a table comparing the original and current loot when it was updated at the end of May:


Obviously it turned out that my expectation/hope was not fulfilled.

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Honestly, this isn’t a surprise. It still stinks though. E&P repeatedly has said they wanted to increase availability of Emblems and AM’s and repeatedly done almost nothing to provide these. They continue to tout new feature, which tend to be expensive versions of old features providing little benefit other than allowing people to use all the ham and iron. The fact that it’s going to take 3+ years to fully emblem a team of 5 star heroes is probably the most ridiculous thing I’ve encountered in all my years of gaming.

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I would be very surprised if someone spends gems to get back to the tournament.

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I’m afraid there will be plenty… otherwise they wouldn’t be so shameless.

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I personally think that SG initially thought that the raid tournaments were going to be a big money maker for them (initially 100 gem entrance fee, then 75 gem continuation fee). But when the money never planned out, they see no reason to give us better rewards for the tournament than compare to other events.

I mean the look at the monthly challenge events, only the top few people who send a ton of resources/money get great rewards, the rest get a little bit. If they can’t make money of it, they not going to reward us with large quantities of emblems, 4* acension items, tokens …

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Looking on does drop rates from first tournament this now is a joke. Like somebody is kidding with us. SG tricked us as they told they will temporarily give this small lots until they fix some bug and they never returned it back.

You can’t tell all of us now that you didn’t say something you will do and never done it and just run some random bug fix talking something changed we are not stupid people. And you are not holding to your word.

This costumes are a joke, another way to spend money and valuable resources to get bit funny looking new heroes that we need to level.

Wow, this is very disappointing. I don’t comment on the boards often, but felt compelled to do so on this. I have followed this feature with great interest and have continued in the tournaments on a few occasions really to get a feel for what it would take to place highly. I won’t anymore. I feel mislead at best, though flat out lied to is probably more accurate. I’ve spent a good deal on the game because I enjoy the playing and believe in the proposition that developers should be supported, but now I see that’s only a one-way street and that support (or at least honesty) to players is not returned. I’ll be adjusting accordingly.

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right move, SG.
lol at people’s greed wanting the original loot with how broken the tournament is. there are still huge problems with matching! some players are attacked once throughout the whole tournament, some attacked more than 30 times on the 3rd day. this means some unlucky players get stuck with grade E defense for the whole tournament - that is -500 points daily. then as I have often noticed, you keep winning but you are offered opponents for fewer points than the previous one! or you lose and your next opponent is yet stronger than the one you just lost too.
the outcome of this tournament is luck based, more luck than the usual luck of the board.

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Very disappointed with that decision. You screwed up BIG time with the initial loot if this is what you consider correct loot for the tournament. It is a MAJOR failure showing us very nice rewards, then tunning them down THEORETICALLY WHILE YOU WERE FIXING THINGS, then saying this is the final loot…

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@Petri just a remainder that people know what temporary mean.

This was April now it is July and you now say you made them better from June compered to first for sure NO, from all other most definitely YES. This is a big fail from SG. We remember, don’t smoke weed and do drugs so definitely have good memory.

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I disagree. I think estimated value difference between say Top1% and Top5% - “converted” into gems - is far more than 75. Plenty players will pay the continuation cost if there’s a good chance to go up a loot tier or two. And you also have to take the extra raid chests into consideration that you are able to open with the extra attacks.

BTT:
While I’m happy loot is not returned to what it was in the beginning (imo way too high and ruining the balance between the different aspects of the game), I’m also disappointed by this announcement. Especially 1 Year of Top1% for ONE 4* mat truly is ridiculous. I would’ve hoped for a slight increase now that the mechanics seem tobe running smoother and smoother.

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This. I’m disappointed too.

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I do want to point out that, maybe, it is better to finally work on the already existing “exciting features which will bring new ways to gain rewards” (released more than 6 months ago…), which are currently neither exciting nor rewarding.

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First loot was cool and there was a chance for weaker players to rank.

Then loot got nerfed, matchmaking changed and a 5th battle day was added.

Tournaments became much more difficult, were less rewarded and more continues wanted to be purchased.

At least one (if not all) of those 3 disadvantages for the players should be turned back into an advantage, since tournaments are the most time consuming aspect of the whole game.

Fill your pockets, but also stay player friendly. Thx in advance…

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If it is so broken, they should fix it instead of working on releasing new bugs.

Maybe, since the tournament is still too much bugged (after 6 months!) for giving the original loot, they can remove the 75 gems fee…
( Yes, yes… I know… that’s really a funny joke! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:)

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