What Is Elemental Damage? - A Guide to Elements

Fair enough. I will see if I can get a recording of a raid with an elemental debuffer on defense. Based on my experience with raiding, I’m pretty sure that the defending heroes’ slashes and specials are higher if they hit an attacking hero with an elemental defense debuff.

Alternatively, bringing an elemental defense buffer to a raid should work similarly to reduce defender slashes/specials, but I don’t have any leveled up to be able to do that right now.

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OK, if you think so, then you should edit your theory:

Non-elemental = Both normal and special attacks by enemies ( including enemy heroes and titans).

Ok. But the difference between first and second Alasie special still should be x 1.993.

In the reality it is only x 1.551.

Was there any update changing how debufs work?

The theory looks correct as written to me. Assuming the defense stats of the targets are similar, the theory should produce these results:

  • If a blue hero on defense slashes at an attacking hero, it will deal the same amount of damage to a red hero as to a green hero. This makes it non-elemental.
  • If a blue hero on defense uses a special on an attacking hero, it will deal the same amount of damage to a red hero as to a green hero. This makes it non-elemental. (Athena is an exception as her special gets the +40% boost against fire.)
  • If the red/green attacking heroes have an ice defense debuff applied to them, the defending blue hero will deal more damage to both of them with slashes and specials, but it will still be the same increased amount of damage to the red hero as to the green hero.
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Yes, thats also applied on ofense case. Special Attack is not depend on strong/weak color, except it is written on skill, like example damage more to holly or Athena as written in card Deals extra damage against Fire. (this is correct on both side offense and defense).
I Agree here.

Now this is what I want more clear explanation…here is the conflict, offense has ice debuff, the defending blue hero attack the offense and deal more damage because the hero is blue.

But your theory say: non-elemental including enemy hero.

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So it is not elemental, but not colorless. It is a tinted attack.

example
yellow tiles are yellow.
Battle items are colorless.
DOT are colorless.
slash/ physical attacks on defense from yellow heroes are tinted yellow.
special attacks from attacking or defending yellow heroes are tinted yellow.

So slash/ physical attacks on defense are really mini- special attacks with damage to target.

This is confusing as all heck.

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Tinted is actually a really good way to describe it. Once I can confirm this is correct with raid footage, I think I might add “tinted” as a category to make the description less confusing.

Agreed. :slight_smile:

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You are right… but I think there is no different tinted, element, color hero all are the same.

Enemy hero / titan normal attack and special is colorless/elemental-less/tinted-less.
But if there are status effect to specific color, then it will not color-less/element-less/tinted less anymore.

Like example you describe alasie +def ice/blue heroes friends againts any color enemy.
Works, has advantage.

Another case:
Also applied to defender Jackal+Joon. Jackal Hero Enemy +def the Attacker from yellow/holy defender (Later Joon attack), this will also work both defender and ofense.
Works, has advantage.

Another case:
I also test as attacker Anzogh +def againts enemy ice heroes. And also it works as espected. So enemy elemental-ice/blue normal or special skill (not yet tested, but in theory should do) will has advantage.
Works, has advantage.


Boldtusk Before buff: 44, After buff: 29.

Sorry to make you confuse.

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Thanks pal for this useful information.

Maybe I missed something here, but what damage is done against elements that are not in the same rotation? Such as, blue against purple , or yellow against red? Are these all neutral damage?

All slash attack (from defense) and special skill (from offense and defense) are neutral, no strong/weak.

The exception for special, if there is written like this (Deals extra damage against Element).
And exception also apply for the opponent that has already elemental debuff.

So to answer your question, no strong/weak, all neutral. Everything is neutral except it is written damage more to specific element.

To clarify, I will give example like this.
Defense team: All Blue
Offense: All Red
So, defender slash attack and special skill all NEUTRAL, no strong weak. Except if defense bring Athena, which is clear in special written: Deals extra damage against Fire

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Thank you for explaining color stacking in better detail.

Don’t sweat it, English is my first language too.

This thread is confusing. I was curious about Evelyn just as post 39 says. And then post 40 confirms Evelyn will hit harder on defense after using her skill.

Post 40 is incorrect yes?! As post 43 seems to suggest.

It’s strange because I see many top defenses with Evelyn. For fast dispel?

On attack it’s great because now tiles hit harder. Other than that… if I read OP correctly, and many posts here say the same: her skill does NOT read “does extra damage against element” and her defense slash is neutral so…
When on defense her lowering of “attacker defense” is pointless?..

Elemental defense buffs and debuffs, like the one applied by Evelyn, apply to damage from sources that match that element even if the damage would normally be non-elemental.

So Evelyn’s slash attacks would indeed deal more damage after applying her green defense debuff because those slashes are coming from a green hero.

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Thanks Lex. This information in regards to armor debuff, really make it seem that defense slash attack are NOT neutral

At the very least… can be made NOT neutral by an armor debuff

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You are correct.

I edit my last post, to add also elemental debuff, althought thats another case and also has explanation and demo video anzogh. And also explanation about Jackal+Joon (has advantage) because element.

So to make more clear my last post I edit and add:

So beside tile damage, everything is normal no strong and no weak, except it is written specific “Element”. Thats it.

So, for a defense hero(QoH), all special and normal attacks are colorless on even an opposite color attack hero(Lianna). But, QoH minions with hit harder on Lianna than on Magni.

If one of the attack heroes(joon) gets an elemental(red) defense buff (kasherek) or debuff (falcon), then, normal, minion and special attacks of the defense hero(QoH) of that element(red) on that attack hero are either reduced or increased respectively, irrespective of what color the attack hero(joon) is.

Thanks for the information.

Thanks for the update

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