What are your thoughts on Elena

Why would you choose Elena over Marjana, tile damage? Why do you prefer her?

Marjana doesnā€™t hit nearly hard enough and no synergy with Wilbur (who I consider best red hero other than top tier/hard to get 5*s). Plus her burn damage is redundant with so many other red heroes.

Marjana 669 atk * 458% = 3604 damage
Elena 809 atk * 202% * 5 heroes = 8171 damage
Elena(+c bonus) 849 atk * 202% * 5 heroes = 8575 damage

You could launch Marjana special before Wilbur and have her hit one hero for 3604. Or you could launch after Wilbur to get the 44% defense down, but then you dilute her hit across 5 heroes.

Elena, you launch after Wilbur and you get her full 8k+ power plus the 44% defense down across the 5 heroes.

And I prefer the counterattack for 5 turns over 2 turns of burn damage. Plus her tile damage puts Marjana to shame.

Finally, the revive talent is awesome. I prefer that over evade, though evade also really good.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! Unfortunately I donā€™t have Wilbur, but there are other ways to lower the other teams defense.

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Just got Elena from TC20, my only red 5*, I have the mats to fully ascend her, but is it worth it? Already have Scarlet and Boldtusk leveled. Also I could use the items to ascend Gormek 3/60, Sumitumo 3/60, Kelile 3/60 or Colen unleveled, and keep the rings for a better 5*.

I agree with this.
I like facing teams with Marjana.
Her higher d for a sniper and her rogue skill make her harder to killā€¦ so I leave her to last. She fires and canā€™t kill anyone on her own, and as mentioned if there is another burn character they donā€™t stack together.

Also, I personally find with GTV et al I prefer multi hitters than single snipers (at least with the red options currently available) because by the time I kill Tell all of the very fasts are just about ready to swarm me together at the same time and a single weaker sniper may not have that much of an impact.

So I would also go Elena first, and C Elena would be amazing.

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Keep the rings for another red 5*. Elena was my 3rd 5* back in October last year. Still sitting at 3.70. Rings went to mitsuko, then JF and currently have 8 rings but refuse to ascend Elena because as soon as i do, Iā€™ll pull a far better red.

I got this suggestion from an old grimble thread and its been a good idea. If you are unsure of maxing a 5*, even a little bit, wait until you get 10 of the 4* mat then go ahead and max. This way you are only 2 short if you pull something good in the future.

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Elena is a great hero. Donā€™t pay attention to those who try minimizing her. With costume and 11 talents, mine has a 930 attack stat. Paired with Boldtusk G.Falcon Wilbur and WuKong, every red tile she fires on green titans is a mini nuke. And she is deadly for most AoE or snipers once she activates.
Bottom line, I have Elena Azlar Marjana and Mitsuko maxed in my red camp and I never for one second regreted maxing Elena. She goes everywhere, while Marjana (+9) mostly comes out for the last war flagsā€¦

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I agree Elena is a beast on titans. You can also mana pot her and falcon and Wilbur at the start for the riposte and def down, something you canā€™t do in raids or wars. Her titan tile damage is very good but you always need to consider the team and roster as well.

Iā€™ve been fortunate to have the same exact titan team you mentioned subbing Elena for mitsuko. I will eventually max her but Iā€™m happy with my red team for titans and am far happier with mitsuko and JF over her due to their versality over Elena being a titan specialist mainly.

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Iā€™ve been using variants of the following team with great success in most diamond raids:

Azlar+18
Elena+4
Rigard+20/Sabina+19
Marjana+18
Vivica/costume Vivica+13

I usually only have to change from that team on Telluria-Vela fronts or some heavily emblemed and fast Kunchen squads. The two healers can keep the team alive until Azlar/Elena can fire. After that, the DoT and Riposte take care of the rest.

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My next 5 star red is from a line up of Anzogh, Elena, Khagan or duplicate Grazul.
My current max 5* red are - Red Hood, Grazul and Jean-Francois.
So you might just have convinced me to go with Elena and put half a dozen emblems on her.
To be honest I was waiting for her costume

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JF is fast and protects your team, for war defense set up, I would definetely go with JF. My AW defense has JF +18 btw. I have C-Azlar, Tyr, Red Hood and all of them has some emblems on. I am not giving defense position to anyone other than JF. :sunglasses:
Costume Elena is amazing and costume helps her stats too, so if you spare some emblems on her, you would definetely gains some benefit but that does not help your raid defense/war defense set up that much.

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More things that I love to see Elena and her costume are:

  1. Her mana boosters are from 3 sources; costume bonus itself, talent booster from rogue class node 8, mana troop level 23. Elena mana speed will turn from SLOW to AVERAGE or very close to average.

  2. Her Reposte stats from costume is the highest in the game. Combined with faster mana speed, her counter attacks are super destructive. I used to see Joonā€™s solar beam and Sartanaā€™s death strike bounced back and inflicted 1750+ damage. Both Joon and Sartana were dead in 1 bounce. Only tricky area is Elena Costume can evade from Rogue class talent, so if she evade the direct damage skill, she will not counter attack. Still, her flank heroes can enjoy reposte buff as always.

  3. I am now upgrading my 2nd Elena with existed costume. Although I will let her stay at 3/70 for both original form and costume, she will definitely be in my 2nd red war team against GTV.

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Thanks for the input on JF! I was wondering about him as well. I am definitely a little jealous about your costumed Azlar, I really want one. I canā€™t complain though, as I havenā€™t spent any real cash on costume pulls, and have gotten 3 different 5*ā€™s so far.

ā€œWhat are your thoughts on Elena?ā€

I mean, sheā€™s attractive. Iā€™d go with Elena.

But Iā€™d be thinking about Lianna.

Hope I helped. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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And maybe Lianna on the side?

Yes and no. Yes, as I appreciate the humor, but also no, as her physical attractiveness will not win me battles. Unless while on defense she is so beautiful that the attacker is distracted by her beauty and makes too many mistakes!

Thatā€™s some great info!

Iā€™ve been reticent to emblem her more than the 3 I had on the original Elena. When I saw her costumed emblem bonus was a dodge I thought ā€œWhats the point in that, you want her to get hitā€.

Now Iā€™m thinking about it more, when her special is up itā€™s unlikely that the opponent will target her anyway due to the massive damage return.

Iā€™m a long way off of mana troop 23 thoughā€¦

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Same here, my red mana troop is only level 9.

Iā€™m on 16 but donā€™t have many troop feeders. Will take forever to get to 23!

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@Bobjohnson
At least the costume bonus already give +5% mana generation
Talent node 8 is not too hard to obtain, right?
Reduce 1 tile to max mana from 12 tiles to 11 tiles is already half way.

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