Version 18 - Class Talents

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#165

My alt is giving emblems to Rigard. He doesnt have any 5* clerics, so the choice seems clear. Hansel complained, but Rigard is more mission-critical.

An important difference between emblems and ascension mats is that we can get emblems back. If my alt happens to get Ariel, he can always strip the emblems from Rigard once Ariel is maxed.


#166

I bet your Rigard were looking emblems like this…


#167

That would also be my choice. But the class bonus says: “…per active buff of enemy …“. With the titan fight, I only have one enemy - and hopefully without a buff. So maybe its also a waste of emblems ???


#168

The biggest benefit to using emblems on titan teams is survivability. 15/20 of the talent grid nodes are about boosting stats, mana regeneration, etc. on the hero, not about the class ability (e.g. Jinx). Jinx against regular titans is a waste and of limited value against rare titans (which do buff themselves).


#169

Looks like we’re all part of a never ending story


#170

Maybe I overlooked it, but has anyone an idea if talents are also handed down to the minions?

There would be several possibilities how that happens (e.g. for minions summoned by Delilah)

  1. Minions are just minions.
  2. Minions get the same talent (if any) that the summoner has.
  3. Minions get the same talent (if any) that the hero has they are accompanying.

Would appreciate any input :slight_smile:


#171

#3

I have seen a Delilah minion on Gravemaker create a Wound. Hitting a Thorn Minion has a chance to spawn another Thorn Minion.


#172

So… a Delilah-Amun combination could be brutal for mana generation?


#173

Thoth creates his own trouble, err, minions, but yes—stacking more minions on him from Delilah, Inari, Santa, etc. will amplify his effect.


#174

Hi Kerridoc,

thanks for the input; however, as far as I understand your answer it would be Nr.3, right?
The minion behaves (concerning talents) just like the hero he is joining.

So a minion in front of a Barbarian can create bleeding, a minion in front of a paladin can create a defensive buff (for the minion only or even the hero?)

I hope I did get you right :slight_smile:

Thanks for your help


#175

My mistake; fixed. Minions take on the talent of their owner, not their summoner.


#176

I need to do a bit more testing, but there is fairly strong evidence that minions attacks are implemented as a single tile attack by their owner. Anything a tile attack can do, a minion should do.


#177

So a minion can revive? Not sure how actually useful that is, but its interesting.


#178

So in a few classes I have enough emblems to go to the first node for a 5 star, but no interesting 5 star to put it on. I’m sure I’m not the only one - so are people waiting or just adding them with the thought of changing them later?


#179

I personally am at the stage of deepening my 4* bench, and have only this week ascended my first two 5* to 4th tier - Drake and Khiona. I have only recently achieved 2 to 3 fully ascended 4* of each colour. Of course I am using my emblems for my 4s. Its a no-brainer that I need to bootstrap to the next level, and it will take months before I can get MN, Onatel, Evelyn, Zimkitty, Quintus, Kadilen and Magni to max. I will in the meantime use my tokens for Grimm, Proteus, Wilbur, Scarlett, Buddy, Sabina, Rigard, Caed, Sonya etc - the ones I use daily. When I get a 5 to max I will refund the tokens and take the loss.
There have to be thousands of players at my level : about half a year along.


#180

I am generally making the call on an individual basis. For example, I have obvious 4* choices (Wu, Grimm, Rigard, jackal) and obvious 5* choices (Ares) but the rest I am waiting on. I have Eve, Lianna, Buddy, Greg and Tibs (and the other 4*) in ranger. How I’ll make a decision here is beyond me.