Trying to determine the number of global players

I personally very much prefer W3K over Mythics. Even with all the flag use “drama” and unintelligible chat :rofl:

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Expected low for 5* Bloody, No G

Last 5* Bloody, No R starting 8/4/24 was 677282.

Heads up to those who are competing for better loot.

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Raid arena cups and corresponding ranks:

raid cups 2400 1800 1200 600 “1”
28.11.21 279415 974575 1377498 1628978 '-
29.09.22 300028 902297 '- '- '-
28.01.23 307399 891662 1174959 1358429 1598863 (27 cups)
10.04.23 306630 880162 1156780 1334703 1620300 (17 cups)
08.05.23 309728 870490 1141466 1314137 1614517 (11 cups)
04.06.23 312534 861991 1127971 1293652 1602601 (3 cups)
02.07.23 305359 848169 1113315 1272760 1555984 (3 cups)
24.07.23 301389 838620 1098513 1253488 1526685 (3 cups)
27.08.23 299602 826450 1084627 1238741 1511058 (3 cups)
18.11.23 291906 801543 1050865 1193320 1431342
20.12.23 289091 791560 1042217 1182156 1404584
18.02.24 284915 772408 1025429 1163426 1393100
17.03.24 281401 765556 1016319 1155553 1400358
31.03.24 279331 758743 1005916 1142024 1377247
01.05.24 278843 746773 986523 1118776 1355959

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Players in each arena:

players diamond platinum gold silver bronze
28.11.21 279415 695160 402923 251480 '-
29.09.22 300028 602269 '- '- '-
28.01.23 307399 584263 283297 183470 240434
10.04.23 306630 573532 276618 177923 285597
08.05.23 309728 560762 270976 172671 300380
04.06.23 312534 549457 265980 165681 308949
02.07.23 305359 542810 265146 159445 283224
24.07.23 301389 537231 259893 154975 273197
27.08.23 299602 526848 258177 154114 272317
18.11.23 291906 509637 249322 142455 238022
20.12.23 289091 502469 250657 139939 222428
18.02.24 284915 487493 253021 137997 229674
17.03.24 281401 484155 250763 139234 244805
31.03.24 279331 479412 247173 136108 235223
01.05.24 278843 467930 239750 132253 237183

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Player fractions in each arena, using 1 cup for bronze

player fraction diamond platinum gold silver bronze
18.11.23 20,4 35,6 17,4 10 16,6
20.12.23 20,6 35,8 17,8 10 15,8
18.02.24 20,5 35 18,2 9,9 16,5
17.03.24 20,1 34,6 17,9 9,9 17,5
31.03.24 20,3 34,8 17,9 9,9 17,1
01.05.24 20,6 34,5 17,7 9,8 17,5

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Heads up! New low for 3* Rush.

Previous 3* RT:

15-4-2024 3* Buff, All = 668,281
4-3-2024 3* Rush, No B = 690,278

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3* Rush is at all time low currently:

Heads up to those trying to get better loot.

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That is a new low i guess. With the rapid drop of participation every week maybe next year we will be 300k players lol

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Raid arena cups and corresponding ranks:

raid cups 2400 1800 1200 600 '“1“
28.11.21 279415 974575 1377498 1628978 '-
29.09.22 300028 902297 '- '- '-
28.01.23 307399 891662 1174959 1358429 1598863 (27 cups)
10.04.23 306630 880162 1156780 1334703 1620300 (17 cups)
08.05.23 309728 870490 1141466 1314137 1614517 (11 cups)
04.06.23 312534 861991 1127971 1293652 1602601 (3 cups)
02.07.23 305359 848169 1113315 1272760 1555984 (3 cups)
24.07.23 301389 838620 1098513 1253488 1526685 (3 cups)
27.08.23 299602 826450 1084627 1238741 1511058 (3 cups)
18.11.23 291906 801543 1050865 1193320 1431342
20.12.23 289091 791560 1042217 1182156 1404584
18.02.24 284915 772408 1025429 1163426 1393100
17.03.24 281401 765556 1016319 1155553 1400358
31.03.24 279331 758743 1005916 1142024 1377247
01.05.24 278843 746773 986523 1118776 1355959
31.05.24 272729 733159 968596 1101535 1363812

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Players in each arena:

players diamond platinum gold silver bronze
28.11.21 279415 695160 402923 251480 '-
29.09.22 300028 602269 '- '- '-
28.01.23 307399 584263 283297 183470 240434
10.04.23 306630 573532 276618 177923 285597
08.05.23 309728 560762 270976 172671 300380
04.06.23 312534 549457 265980 165681 308949
02.07.23 305359 542810 265146 159445 283224
24.07.23 301389 537231 259893 154975 273197
27.08.23 299602 526848 258177 154114 272317
18.11.23 291906 509637 249322 142455 238022
20.12.23 289091 502469 250657 139939 222428
18.02.24 284915 487493 253021 137997 229674
17.03.24 281401 484155 250763 139234 244805
31.03.24 279331 479412 247173 136108 235223
01.05.24 278843 467930 239750 132253 237183
31.05.24 272729 460430 235437 132939 262277

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Player fractions in each arena, using 1 cup for bronze

player fraction diamond platinum gold silver bronze
18.11.23 20,4 35,6 17,4 10 16,6
20.12.23 20,6 35,8 17,8 10 15,8
18.02.24 20,5 35 18,2 9,9 16,5
17.03.24 20,1 34,6 17,9 9,9 17,5
31.03.24 20,3 34,8 17,9 9,9 17,1
01.05.24 20,6 34,5 17,7 9,8 17,5
31.05.24 20 33,8 17,3 9,7 19,2

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For the last 30 days it looks like something like

  • 6100 players fell from diamond to platinum,
  • 13600 players fell from platinum to gold,
  • 17900 players fell from gold to silver,
  • 17200 players fell from silver to bronze and
  • bronze got 7800 new players.

While looking for players with certain cups I found that the cups do not change for offline players that have been offline for a while.

One month ago I had recorded several alliances of players with certain cups and those players still have the very same cups now.
The highest cups that I had recorded like that was 2000, and now I looked for other offline players with even more cups. Here are some of them:

So, if you go offline, you get raided by others for a few hours, but after I don’t-know-how-many-days you simply do not get attacked at all anymore and keep those remaining cups. Top100 is probably different, though.

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If those dormant accounts do not upgrade to the latest version of the app, they do not get matched for raids once the latest versions are forced by Zynga.

That would explain the “frozen” cups.

My game buddy, who retired ages ago, parked her account with me in my solo alliance. Her account is currently “frozen”.

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That makes perfect sense.

All those offline accounts will then remain forever in the ranking with the cups that they had when the next update was pushed, irrespective of their defense team.

So the actual rank will always give the impression that there are far more active players than there actually are.

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That’s why I monitor the participation for RT and other events: MT, W3K, Tower, AQ.

Some monitor Challenge Event participation.

Active participation is more indicative of a game’s popularity.

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Rank 6343 is outside of top 1% in this week’s tournament.

Participation dropped to a new low. <630k.

Try to stay below 6000 for top 1%, in case ranking is heavily clumped.

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I have one trophy. The rank is 1.3M.

I guess the inactive accounts are excluded from the rankings.

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Very interesting! That is approx. 50,600 players less than what the game shows me right now for the inactive accounts with 1 cup that I just took screenshots a few minutes ago:

They should show nearly the same cups, maybe off by 600 players, but not 50,600.
The actual number of offline players in the ranking should be >400,000 - that was the approximate number of inactive players in the ranking that I extrapolated with data from December 2023.

=> I have no explanation right now for this difference of 50,600

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Your sampling indicates that all 4 are long inactive. They wouldn’t have upgraded to the latest app version. They are still there for Zynga’s statistics on downloads, all-inclusive player base for marketing purposes.

But it wouldn’t be relevant to this thread because this thread is trying to determine the current active player base.

@Nexus1254 is active. His ranking is more relevant. Looks like all in, at least 1.3m have upgraded to the latest version.

Of course this 1.3m includes inactive accounts with cup >1. Like my long retired buddy’s account.

This is why I monitor RT population. One needs to sign up to be included in the count.

Right now that count has reached an all time low of about 630k.

That is a huge difference of 670k. Of course, not everyone participates in RT.

Which is when attention shifts to participation in challenge events and other events: AQ, Tower, MT.

If you scroll up, I think indicator number is about 800+k, which does support the current monthly revenue.

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I think the best indicator of active playerbase is when new event hits the game. Granted, with difficulty issues of Return to Sucktuary there might be some players who didn’t even bother.

MT is such a non-event I almost forgot it runs in game last two or three times.

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Is it just me or is the forum topic page starting to look like in-game global chat. I wonder if a correlating data point for this topic as the population drops, the recruitment threads rise.