To Cup Drop or Not to Cup Drop

If cup dropping is wrong, I don’t want to be right ! :rofl:
I usually keep a somewhat lame defense, just enough to keep some rif raf at bay but the cup dropers happy. I don’t mind loosing a few hundred cups overnight if it means I’ll get my revenge the next day and fill my chest. I’ll be happy to help out my fellow raiders out there. I found my happy place in high platinum, just high enough to have enough cups to give but not go too low to where it’s a pain to climb back up…The ham is a plus for me…Unfortunately, it sounds like this cup dropping has been taken to the next level in regards to AWs. Which sucks. But, in short, I think cup dropping is a wonderful thing and we’d all benefit and be much happier if we all did it, and I approve this OP… :grinning::muscle:

You can throw everything I just said out the window if you care about rankings…All bets are off and you play to win and maintain a certain “status”. I come up to Diamond a few times but find it a chore to stay there, not to mention I don’t have enough depth in my heroes to cruise a little easier.

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That’s an interesting point you make which I wouldn’t have fully appreciated till yesterday.

I wound up pushing cups on my alt (tried on my main too with mixed success, alt actually was higher than the main at one point reaching #28 on the leaderboard… not so alt-like anymore I guess) and higher level raids were pretty hard and I hadn’t really thought through my strategies with a different hero set than what I have on the main.

I’ll admit, the main is pretty much on autopilot winning something like 90% of it’s raid attacks even north of 2500 cups when actually trying… the alt wasn’t anywhere close to that for most of the time: I was fumbling around on boards figuring out alternative color tactics to the point it was somewhat embarrassing; fortunately it wasn’t all for naught as I got a lucky run on the alt’s defense, but ultimately if you don’t play against the high levels it takes a bit to get back to that level: even when you have another account that can reach the upper echelons already.


@Petri @Sara

Thank you!


I second that with all my heart.

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Oh wow, dropped down to platinum for the past week or so. If that ham output stays that way for a diamond chest, might have to wander back up to diamond.

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My first diamond chest was around 160k but I didn’t really think much of it other than hey look at that, but 182k is over 50% (maybe more like 80%) higher than I’ve ever gotten pre 1.11: getting over 100k was a very rare occurrence for me though I know Boar had posted some previously in the past (think his was a 120k ham value sometime in 1.08 or 1.09ish).

There’s some problems with this: I have max food storages which I think is the driving factor towards getting higher ham values from chests (it might be watchtower or player level too I don’t know that anyone has concretely tracked it) and while others are reporting increased rewards too in the 100k range presumably with less base development, I can still obliterate even the 182k ham value on the alt as shown in this thread by dropping cups.

That said, if it was changed and I strongly think it was, it’s absolutely a step in the right direction and I’m profoundly happy that SG is trying to address the issues.

Not sure why they are doing stealth changes, when talking about quality of life stuff put those in the patch notes with pride yo!


This was a head scratcher for me. They keep some really cool things quiet until someone on here posts about it. Like the QOL change to watchtower, it saves your position in the log so you don’t have to scroll down everytime. Or that they changed Alliance Wars matching to Titan score.
They really should tell us every detail! We love that stuff!

*Note- not that the Titan score was really a QOL change…


The matchups for AW were obviously changed also, that was another good change in the right direction. Why not give us players 100% change facts in patches? You wanna drive a wedge inbetween gamers and devs, continue with stealth changes and it WILL bite you in the butt sooner or later. You made some good changes this patch and should be proud of it. :facepunch:

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Yes. Perhaps the idea is that it’s more fun for us to discover this stuff? I think SG should be shouting about improved raid tier loot.

Has all Wanted chest loot suddenly improved, or have I just had a very lucky run over the last day? Seems like every chest I’ve opened has had a high level ascension item, an epic troop token, and a trainer hero. Is anyone tracking this properly for a full alliance?

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wow! I did not get that in my diamond chest today
Most definitely not.

And I am getting thoroughly tired of raiding upwards (I have 3900+ def, 2400 / 2500 cups) or getting suggested opponents to raid downwards (in cups), seeing also 4000+ def players with 2200 cups. And no decent ham bounty to be found.


To my mind, this is getting thoroughly annoying.
With opponents at 4000+ team power, it is not possible to just jump in with the rainbow team, but it is necessary to choose the opponent carefully, so I even have a chance of winning.

And I do stop when I have finally succeeded in filling my chest.
No fun, no decent loot, and terrible boards lately - why bother?

I really miss the times when I happily raided as a robber baron.
Now it is just a lot of bother, just to fill the chest.

And please, people, save any comments about my bench not being good enough.
I am working on my heroes. But I most definitely cannot do witchcraft.

Maybe I am just thoroughly annoyed with this whole game at the moment.
I leveled up quickly to be able to play in peace. Not to bother with this and bother with that…

Maybe I should just take it slow with the game for a while.
To my mind, it is currently very annoying, quite time consuming and just a royal pain in the butt.

Talking for myself I didn’t get anything different for better or worse on chests (platinum). So I can’t say if it was improved, wasn’t for me.
I did receive darts from titan today but I guess it was totally random luck.

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Just for clarification, i had over 100k of each food and iron in my 2 raid chests yesterday at platinum.


No my diamond loot is still kinda junk outside of those two recent ham values haha.

I have pretty bad luck when it comes to chests as of late, bunch of other people are getting good stuff and I know it’s just all RNG but none of it is falling my way except for a compass which, meh. Not helpful really at my stage in the game.


Stupid question but did you update before opening the chests? ETA - I see that you have updated at some point in game, but not sure if it is client or server side

There’s also a random component in it the rolls, and size of award appears to be tied to base development I think of food storages.


So we’ve been collecting some screen shots in Departed and looks as though the rewards appear to be 2x from what they were before.

Not science but many of us have scored higher than the previous value anyone of us know of and the frequency of hits is about the same at the 2x value as what we were getting before with no changes in storages or watchtower skewing it.


Thank you very much for your reply.

Yes, I did the update yesterday and collected on the chest today.

So, in view of your second reply, I do not have to bother with increasing the food storage at this time?

I have all 9 windmills at level 20. But saw no reason to greatly increase food storage buildings as yet. They are currently 15,15, 13 and 7. - My heroes eat the food as soon as it comes in :wink: So increasing food storage has no priority at this time.

Except higher storages appear to lead to higher ham rewards from various loot rolls.

I get much higher on my main than my alt from every source and the salient differences are storages and watchtower; I’m leveling storages on my alt and then will push diamond again to see, but having larger appears to increase your income rate.


oh really! thank you for the advice.

Then I will just have to spend my iron on something that is otherwise no use to me whatsoever at this time. I am not happy with this at all, but if this is the case, it cannot be helped, if I wish to enjoy the increased food loot for this very cumbersome raiding in diamond level.

Ever since the start of AW, the game has been messing with sensible and reasonable priorities, to my mind.
Luring one away from what is sensible and reasonable, and towards things that would not be necessary at this point in time, if it were not for some sudden introduction of some thing that you will fail in, if you do not drop everything and take precautions against failing miserably at this new thing.

That is not to my taste at all.

Please excuse my cranky tone. It is not directed at you. On the contrary. I am grateful for your advice.

I simply hate having to drop everything and bother with (what was, up to now) priority z, simply to avoid sudden negative consequences.

Add to that rotten boards in raids, rotten boards in titans (my iron has been going into tornadoes to combat those horrible boards), those annoying and time consuming AW battles - and anyone can see that I am not a happy camper at the moment.

I will just take it slowly for a while.
When a game gets to be just as bothersome and annoying as a job, instead of providing fun and relaxation, it is high time to take it slowly.

TC19 and Troop leveling; higher food storages do have some quality of life returns.

Ultimately you can still get higher from cup dropping if you wish currently so if Diamond isn’t to your taste then do something different :slight_smile:



Thank you. Yes, cup dropping would be the most sensible thing to do. Let me talk to my alliance leader whether that is ok.

At the moment, TC 19 ist the very last of my priorities. I have more than enough heroes and 4 training camps running 24/7 to feed them.

Add to that the necessity to level up 4 more healers for AW to make 12 (one is already feeding, together with other heroes that I am leveling for raids etc), and all I can say is: “Ain’t nobody got time for that” :wink: