Tile placement, random?

Ha! There’s A LOT that isn’t random. We see patterns because it’s been more beneficial to see patterns where they are not that to not see (miss) the patterns where they are present.

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Starting board from a fight from AW, went to finish the target

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That’s fascinating. Sounds like something Revelate used to say, actually. :wink:

That is fantasticly awful luck lol

You can’t trust your eyes here, friend. And certainly you shouldn’t expect anyone with a healthy amount of skepticism to trust your eyes, either.

If you really want to make this thread into something that people will pay some mind to, you will need to do some leg work. And you’ll need some help :slight_smile:

I think probably Titan and war boards would be the best, because players actively WANT to win those battles the most, I think. (Quests next). So maybe making those events challenging would make more sense if for some reason SG wanted to impose some sort of board tax on people… (that might make sense. Who knows.)

So what I propose you do is:

  1. count the number of each color tile on OPENING boards for these event types with a rainbow Team. You’ll probably want about 1000 different boards to balance out random chance.
  2. omit a color on your team and repeat step 1)
  3. compare the results from 1) and 2) to see if the omitted color is present in more boards

So, that sounds awful. But don’t expect me or anyone else to trust your “feeling on it” because as the nittany lion said; this is basically how our brains are wired, to see patterns even when there aren’t necessarily any.

Much love.

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Haha! Thats an amazing board! A green 3x → ghosts 3x purple into a green diamond!

From there I’m betting you got more reds than Russia! :slight_smile:

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Yes! Hard as it seems I won the battle! But it took long enough. Caedmon alone killed Hel and Athena! Then I got 2 sets of red on Alby

Edit: forgot to say only BT and Caedmon were leveled! Falcon and Marjana didn’t even get blades yet

Nittanylion, what you said in your reply is probably the best answer anyone could have given. I believe you are correct in your assessment of this situation. I agree that we as humans tend to focus on the negative. I’ve been in management my entire career and I do know that when it comes to customers (humans) that you could have a 99% quality rating, but they will key in on the 1% mistakes that were made.
I’m still not completely sold on the complete randomness of the boards, however, now I will begin recording my findings with the boards and will go at it unbiased so that I can get a better picture of how it works.
Thanks Nittanylion!

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I agree completely that the algorithms seem to create boards that favor your success when you have a strong team, and make it difficult when your team strength is sub par, especially against titans. I have also picked up that success in raids seems to follow a wave pattern, having a bout of defeats and then a bout of wins. I do not believe these boards are completely random, no matter what the developer says. Their admission of pre-fixed boards would create issues for them far beyond a few moaning forum readers, so they would never admit it.

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We can post images like that for ever. It is random!

Always best to collect evidence that you can use to test your perceptions. Without that, they’re just perceptions.

I have stopped paying/buying anything in this game as this is still a real issue. Anyone that say otherwise are guaranteed to be payed by the developers. Saying that it’s totally random… It’s not! Sure I don’t have the hard evidence but I have STATISTICS and now I have have had a mathematician (my professor at the uni…) to check my data and he say the same thing, there is something in this game that is screwing up the statistics so if it’s not a faulty RNG algorithm, then the game is rigged!

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I am a professor too. You don’t need to see my evidence but you should trust me. I did the statistics and my conclusion is tiles are random.
:face_with_monocle:

I can’t wait to receive my check from SG.

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It’s in the mail via pirate pigeon delivery… I’m still waiting for mine…

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Was just about to post the same thing. Took the words right outta my mouth.

Post your data. We’d all love to see it.

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I think Nittany hit the nail on the head. Often I feel like the randomness is BS too, especially when the board really sucks, but if I pay attention I’ll notice that I get a fair amount of advantageous boards. Not only that but why would the devs lie about the algorithm? There’s no need to lie because no matter whether or not the boards are random they apply to everyone therefore the game is fair to all players, random or not.

I don’t know if I’m responding in the right place, but if I am, let me tell you one thing that will answer your question 100%. You asked if the tile placement is random. The answer to that is ABSOLUTE NOT. Dont listen to what developers tell you. If they say it is, they are 100% not telling the truth. The reason I know this is because there is no such thing as truly random when it comes to computers. There is no such thing as a computer that does ANYTHING truly random. Computers do what they’re programmed to do. Even slot machines are in no way random. They, like all computers, do what they are programmed to do, WHEN they’re programmed to do it.

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Way back in my high school days, I had a scientific calculator. It had a Random Number Generator function that was supposed to generate a random number between 000 and 999. It was uncanny how many times it seemed to generate the same numbers, often the same number 2 or 3 times in a set of 10. (0.1% of landing on a certain number, and it happens more than once in 10 attempts? rigged? or seems legit?)

This was a simple calculator, that I assume was not programmed to intentionally produce any specific outcome. Yet there it was. Perhaps that’s just the nature of randomness. Or perhaps it wasn’t programmed correctly. Maybe the universe itself controlled the outcome specifically to mess with my head. Maybe the computers have been secretly plotting amongst themselves. Or maybe it was all just my imagination AKA “confirmation bias”.

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Not that E&P is using one of these, but…