🏅 [Third Raid Tournament] Discussion and Feedback on the Updated Raid Tournament Matchmaking & Difficulty Bonus

there should not be any hero in the game that a person is forced to stack against to beat. I will stand by that statement until my days here are done. not enough people have enough stack counter to counter grave at tank with this kind of stipulation. no heals is just really bad for 5 star catergory to many players having to deal with fully emblemed 5 star teams of the top players.

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I totally agree that they should have announced that matching is no longer based on your tournament defense team power like it (supposedly) was last time.

(For the record, neither of my previous comments in this thread were intended to touch on that issue.)

My experience with matching in this tourney seems pretty reasonable so far:

  • My tourney defense team is TP4228. My first attack was against a TP4096 team. Second was against TP4121, and third was against TP4088. I received 660, 670, and 679 points, respectively. My next matchup is against TP4224, and will be worth 690 points if I win. (I’m saving my last two attacks for my next raid chest.)

  • I’ve been attacked six times. Lost the first, won the next five. (I suspect my defense will come back to earth soon; that seems unsustainable. The teams that attacked me have tournament defense teams with TP 4146, 4101, 4099, 4086, 3968, and 4098, their player levels wre 51, 54, 57, 54, 39, and 54, and their normal raid defense teams are TP 4145, 4022, 4099, 4041, 3968, and 4111.)

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Every type of tournament will have its niche heroes.

I still prefer to fight some GVMs in the current one rather than being forced to joyfully meet 5 members of the Gunnar family per day in the previous one.

Have you seen any fully-emblemed 5-star heroes so far? I don’t think that’s actually possible yet. I also think you should get used to color-stacking being part of the meta.

I mean, what’s stopping you from using Sonya, Grimm, Kiril, Boril, and whatever 5th hero? Four or five tiles from that group should be enough to take out a Grave tank before it fires. Yeah, it’s risky, but why should a player whose four best blue heroes are 4-star heroes from TC20 expect to be able to have an easy time against a team with a maxed Grave tank?

Yes, it takes time to develop a roster with enough maxed 5-star heroes of any color to consistently stack against the games’ top tanks, which is what you need to weather the storm of a bad opening board, but isn’t that kind of the point of a game like this? You have to put in the time to be able to compete at the highest levels. I dunno what the problem is.

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My opinion in this 5* allowed is: much more competitif, ridiculous boards continued to appear and you certainly will loose. Already have 2 defeats. I Wil not waste gems to revive. I like that I’m more exposed to others. Already been attacked 6 times.

Did you get a screenshot

Nvm it’s a known issue

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My defence team is 4200 TP.
So far i have been attacked 12 times, all attackers between 4050-4200 TP.

Attack wise i am 4W 1L… all the teams i was offered to attack were 4050-4180 TP.

i am in the top 1-5%.

Much better than last tournament, i was only attacked 3 times.

This time around i seem to be stuck in a band width… all attackers and people to attack are 4050- 4200 TP.

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I have been playing a year and I dont ever stack higher than two heroes and dont like when I have to do that. as I stated no hero in the game should be so tough that you are FORCED to stack to beat them. more you stack less actual skill involved more hope. this isnt a casino I should be able to strategically fight any combo in the game. anyone get a ■■■■■■ board on grave and you cannot recover at all that’s garbage.

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Nice for you if you have a great roster you can choose from, but I can’t. I am f2p and in about 1,5 year I didn’t pull a single 5* from summons. I have to use what I have and without healing it is mostly ending ■■■■■■ with a bad board. And I am really only talking about bad boards, not normal, bad.

Raiding is maybe not my favorite, but I know what I have to do. Atleast with the roster I have. I don’t have heroes with real awesome specials like you have and have to do the best I can and with a bad board I need a plan B except of dealing pure damage and there is not much more left.

And as said, sorry if I can’t explain myself good enough, it’s not my main language.

I don’t complain that I am not landing at top 1%. I only don’t like the fact, that it is adding only a new luck factor to this game. If I can shoot one or two heroes it doesn’t change the whole game. In the long run I am ok with it, not the end of the world.

In the end it only means that my roster isn’t made for this. Others where better. Atleast I could change my roster for a different tactic. Here I have to hope for a good board.

I have the feeling I can’t explain it in the right way. Damn language barrier…

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I don’t think anyone has shown healing to be working (so I would be surprised if Viv healed - the one I fought did not when she fired), just the revive skill and atomos - everything else seems to be working as intended.

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The animation still happens, but no healing happens on the many occasions I have seen healing attempted.

Sure it is! =D

Why? 20

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No, I think I get what you’re saying. And you’re certainly right that playing this game without having spent any money puts you at a disadvantage, which is probably magnified in this raid tournament. I didn’t mean to say that I think the effect you’re noticing doesn’t exist. I’m just saying that you can practice for it and do better next time. Certainly, if you’re limited to TC20 heroes, you’re going to have a harder time winning without healers, compared to someone who has several event/hotm heroes.
But this is the third raid tournament, and it’s really the first one where the rules are clearly more favorable to big spenders. (And the loot is nerfed, so it barely even matters!) SG is trying to give us a mix of different challanges/strategies to keep things interesting, which hopefully everyone can appreciate, even though the implementation so far has been disappointing…

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I thinks its strange to see, that some people in my alliance where attacked over 17 times while others are attacked only once. And this is after the first day.

I agree with Moncho, the rules didn’t go far enough. SGG has a serious communication issue. I did not last 1 day.
I am lvl25, 2883 team power with a rainbow attack team Ltl John, Tiburtus, Scarlett, Chao, Sonya. I kept getting matched against teams 1500 to 2500 above me with heros far above mine in tiers and ability.
I knew I would likely not last the entire tournament but geez 1 day?
I dont rely on any one type hero or star level, in anything, Raids, Tournaments, Titans. I do try to match my team to what I am up against as best I can.
The loot is this Tourney is not all that special IMHO.
The one thing SGG did get right is this Tournament is a BLOOD BATH.
Last place loot is all I can hope for.
Sign me very frustrated about tournaments. I think they need to have better groupings for higher level players, mid level and lower level. Based on team power and 3* 4* 5* heros used. Not all 2800 teams are the same.
Just my 2 cents!

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I checked the leaderboards, most of the top 100 players are in the top 3000 rankings or have a TP defence deck of 4100+
I am no such player or near there .

All my battles have been tough. I can safely say this is a battle for the big hitters in the game or those w a roster of several 5* heroes to chose from. :muscle:

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this is a joke. so many players set a low D but then attack with 300+ more power. just like reg. raids and war. but hey they dont care this is for whales and just a big money grab. they lost any money from me. but once again they could care less

good … no tournament Raid once it has been done once … which has not been as good as a point of view or a point of view. … some Warriors were attacked 4.5.7 correct times others as my case were only attacked 1 time … it corroo unless it is a good attack attack … good game to all

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my defence …my targets worthed less points than my teammates targets even that mineshad more power in , my targets worthed less points than a target with 1 3* hero only on defence ,this tournament rocks ,well done sg everyone is happy with your work ,we will love the tournament put back the real lot and will see all this happy faces here crying a river than…good nite all :slight_smile:

I felt like a lot of those on this thread. I was outmatched in 3 of 4 matches by 300-400 points and the tiles sucked for last so I lost 4 in a row. The loot sucks as well but it doesn’t cost energy to play and no negatives if you are attacked so guess that’s ok. Keep working on making matches more even. I won’t waste gems for replays.

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