The REAL problem here

I have, for the most part, stopped reading the threads on this forum. I’m sick of all the players on here whining about it not being fair.
Here’s a tip for all you players who are unhappy. GET OVER IT. IT’S JUST A GAME. Geez…
I’ve been playing E&P for over a year. I have had my fair share of bad experiences and frustrations. But instead of whining about it, I just keep playing and keep trying to get the heroes and items that I want. Whining about the “unfairness” and “bad coding” of the game isn’t going to get you anywhere.
It’s JUST a game. Don’t take it so seriously that you ruin the purpose of it. To have FUN. Have fun with the game instead of ruining everyone else’s fun by being a wet blanket about everything.
If you don’t like the game, don’t play it. And if you don’t want to play it, delete it! It’s that simple! Stop wasting people’s time by coming on the forum and whining like babies before rage quitting.
Ugh. =_=
I’m seriously so sick of seeing everyone treating the devs like they made the most horrible game in history. Get over it!


I’m going to whine about you whining about other people whining.


I agree with @Perilin for the most part, it doesn’t really serve much purpose to complain about people complaining, maybe other than giving someone the chance to vent.

I do find it sad that this forum is so plagued with people that whine and cry so much. I’ve always enjoyed being part of an active forum, from cars, to electronics, to woodworking, and beyond. This is definitely the first forum I’ve been a part of that has this much complaining, but it’s also the first forum I’ve been a part of that is so closely related to gambling, so I guess I get it, people like their money.

There’s nothing anyone can really do to change the level of complaining, though I wish there was. Makes it a lot harder to find valuable posts.


There, you nailed the exact reason why people complain. It’s supposed to be a game, but like many others, it’s turned into gambling. This is far from the only game and associated forum that are afflicted by it. And yes, people do like their money, and they get a little irritated when they spend it and don’t get what they think their money is worth. Because they got into the game to have fun, not to gamble.

But this is what mobile gaming has evolved into, and until either players wise up and stop spending or somebody comes up with a more fair and equitable model, this is what we’re stuck with. Either play for free (or cheap) and live with it, whale it up and spend big, or quit and move onto something else. Those are pretty much our choices.


You are so wise and you deserve unicorns :unicorn:

Unicorns everywhere for you :unicorn: :unicorn:

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My primary annoyance are people that do nothing but spend, then complain, then spend, then complain, then spend, then complain…

Learn your lesson. Either choose to spend money and know that you’re pulling on a slot machine, or play for free and enjoy it, because it can be very enjoyable without spending any money at all.


They whine because they think this is a safe space to express themselves and SG will listen lmao. It’s mostly these new millenials brought up in the “why me” and “my feelings are all that matter” generation rather than being rational. They could all band together and not buy anything for a month and SG would take notice then…but that’s too simple of a solution.


You preach truth, my friend.


Exactly. Let’s not forget entitled. Somehow they deserve a 5 star on every pull. I kick people out of my alliance if they whine like the people on here.


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@Sirjant31337 - A little off topic, but this is a known issue. Please read the following thread for more information:

[SOLVED] Enemies Turning Invisible (with Counter Attack & Self-Healing)

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Gee thanks?
I feel loved.

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Plenty of people whine in the global Chatrooms as well. I’ve pretty much stopped going there as well.

I’d like to see these people who complain all the time about not pulling 5* heroes every time and not being able to win every raid go to Las Vegas or anywhere that has a casino and complain why they can’t get 7 7 7 to come every time when they pull the slot machine lever. Boo Hoo - you are the same people that complain when they are not dealt a good hand in poker, etc.


I was half joking, I should have added a winky face but I hoped that my tone was implied.

I post my feedback (critical) in the AW matchmaking thread because it is quite broken where I’m at, and it has a negative impact on alliance morale. I don’t think it’s whinging, but maybe it is.

As for the money, we can individually choose not to spend money if we think it’s not worth it. I too do not understand people that spend and cry, spend and cry in some vicious cycle of disappointment. Seems like an abusive relationship. But if enough people want to tell the world how much they spent and how little they got from it, maybe it will deter someone else. Seems like a positive to me :slight_smile:


I appreciate people who complain and add structured arguments and possible solutions. This is necessary to get different insights about the topic.

If you do not add this to your complaints, then you complain to get rid of frustration in order to make yourself feel better. I understand that this is sometimes necessary, but often you will influence the mood or positive energy of other people if they are susceptible to it. I am someone who enjoys taking care of others, so this type of complaining often provokes irritations for me. Oh oh…you have just got to know me a little. :hear_no_evil:

The expressions of E&P players can not be compared with those of gamblers. Most people go to casinos or play E&P purely for entertainment value. However, gambling in a casino or in the summon portal has two completely different goals.

Most people do not depend on winning money in a casino in order to make necessary progress in their lifes. For some people the value of winning may “finally” mean progress in life (i.e. financial poverty), but for the majority it is purely entertainment.

Every single player in E&P depends on winning ‘‘better’’ heroes in the summon-portal in order to make necessary progress in the game. In contrast of the value of winning in casinos, the majority of E&P players are not being entertained by obtaining equal or less worthwile heroes.

Most of us are fine with spending some money and not winning any money in return inside a casino, because we have been able to entertain ourselves while we were in there. The experience is bigger in a casino visit than during 20 seconds of summoning heroes. Spending money on summons does actually always give us something in return. Heroes of any value are always useful, but the degree of usefulness quickly becomes very small when you already have a pretty fine bench of heroes. For the majority of players in E&P who still need to progress in order to compete better, no tools to progress simply means less-to-no entertainment.

Summoning is not the only aspect of the game which causes people to complain. It is however one of the biggest, if not the biggest, cause of the complaints. The lack of ascension materials for example is another cause.

In my eyes the real problem is that the entertainment value of the final results of summonning heroes is very low if you compare it to other events, activities or happenings, which require money to be invested.

I have said it before, but I will say it again. Implementing systems to provide us with the opportunity of making something worthwile out of our disappointing return on investments, might actually increase the total revenue of SGG. It might take a way the hesitation of spending money for some people, knowing that they can use their maybe-disappointing results. Maybe the Alchemy Lab PROPOSAL - New Building: Alchemy Lab will be a big step into this direction, let us cross our fingers… :crossed_fingers:


Stay tuned for the next thread - people complaining about the people who complain about the complainers. Can I get a unicorn too, @Elpis?

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You are very welcome :unicorn:


But how can people who are pro complaining complain about people who are complaining about the complainers?

Shouldn’t it be the people who are against complaining that should be complaining about the people who complain about people complaining about the complainers?

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Always have to look from different angles. Whining is part of progress. If people are not happy with something and showing it then developers could possibly improve that process. Not always not everything should be changed but at least feedback is given.

Also have to understand if people are spending lot of money or just are very deep into something then reactions like whining, disappointment being angry or mad are normal human behaviour. Some are more emotional some less. Course there are borders. Therefore we have moderators.