The Hatter stole Brynhild buffs

The Hatter ability says that “steals all DISPELLABLE buffs from enemies…” but Brynhild should prevent it. It looks funny how he even stole the buff that protect from dispells. :smiley:

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Interesting.

Brynhild’s buffs and those she’s protecting can be overwritten, which is different to being dispelled.

So if she has a defence buff protected, it can’t be dispelled by Caedmon but it can be overwritten by Grimm’s defence debuff.

I guess hatter counts as an overwrite, not a dispel

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Yes, but lets say its a steal effect, not dispell. The one ability that defend from dispells must be undispellable. With this logic, he should’t stole that ><

Or is it a buff, that defend from dispells, but dispellable? Sounds wrong…

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Seems to be an issue.
Hatter shouldn’t steal undispellable buffs, since his card says steals dispellable buffs.

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I think the problem is that the effect brynhild gives protects from dispell effects, but the buffs remain in dispellable state. btw I think some modification needed because its ambiguous.

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Ah, okay, now I got it.
Bryns buffs aren’t undispellable, they are just protected from dispelling. Hatter can steal them, since he doesn’t dispel.

Hatter and the secret hero should be a top tag team. Add Killhare and 2 buffing healers and you have a crazy cool team.

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Yeah, thats understandable this way, but my problem with this is the one buff what protects. This is a spell, which protects itself and the other effects from dispell, but being ‘dispellable’? Isn’t it obvious that a spell which protects itself (and others) from dispell is undispellable by definition? I mean if I am the stronges man and no one can beat me, i am unbeatable. (and I think in this situation understanding how game allows it doesn’t mean its right.)

Not exactly. Looking at the literature about witches, there is a lot of protection spells - but those are still spells. Truth to be told, to dispell those you usually need some sort of special or stronger magic, but at the end, you can strip off those protection spells.

That is The Hatter …steals anything that is dispellable, that is why he is the Hatter…:smile:

But frankly… that portion of Brynhild’s reads ''The caster and nearby allies are immuned to buff dispel…
I guess that immunity can be stolen.

Yeah, definitely can be stolen, but The Hatter steals only dispellable buffs. So the buff which defends from dispells actually dispellable (just no one can dispell it because it defends against dispells?), which in my opinion kinda funny. :smiley: (I understand how it works, but from a point of view of a player kinda bothering.)

Would you please explain it.
Maybe I’m too noobish to get it.

It was discussed here: The Hatter stoles Brynhild buffs

No official answer tho.

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Should be merged.

There’s no official statement, since the community has already found the answer.

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I don’t really know if it is a bug or not (maybe not), but I would like to verify it. Also if it is working as intended, then a change should be considered.

A few minutes ago I attacked an enemy in war where The Hatter was the left flank. I managed to charge and fire my Brynhild’s special skill before The Hatter hit me. And the surprise came here, Hatter stole everything. (Fortunately I won the match, so no harm, but it could have been way worse)

I understand that Brynhild’s buffs are not listed as ‘undispellable’, but one of the buffs make her and the nearby allies immune to dispels. Which technically makes the buffs undispellable. But Hatter can only steal dispellable buffs, so it is kind of an anomaly.

Could the word ‘Steal’ be the key here in Hatter’s special skill description? Since it is not a dispel in wording, it could be the explanation, but in the end, the effect is still a dispel.

Even if it is working as intended, I think Hatter shouldn’t take Brynhild’s buffs. Since regular dispellers can’t dispel Brynhild and the nearby allies, it shouldn’t change from Hatter’s perspective because Brynhild and the nearby allies are technically undispellable.

Since I’m not recording war hits, I can only provide a screenshot (the enemy tank was a regular Quintus, so it had no effect in the outcome).

Thank you in advance for the reply!

I send you this link, although there isn’t an official solution.

As you said, I think the word steal is the clue.
I’ve got the Hatter and I can steal Brynhild’s immunity.

Brynhild is also is being dispelled by Chamillion in GoT I’ve noticed

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