Barry, what the he!!?! This take is WAY too calm, measured, and reasonable. This is the internet sir, and I will not stand for it! Now how is that other guy supposed to keep arguing?!?!
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Iâve been playing over a year but a few months short of that. Many in my alliance are over two years.
Being out of ham is normal and a constant struggle at this point.
Iron not so much. Most of us canât use it crafting more timestops or tornados because we lack the mats. And we have no building upgrades to spend it on. My iron goes less than full only after I spend emblemsâŠ
But when we can upgrade the stronghold past 20 weâll have something to spend it on for a few months.
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Dude.
This is the Internet.
Why are you even asking???
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My understanding of this is that the attack and defense debuff are set as of when the target is hit.
So yes, for the larger attack and defense reductions, you need to hit the Titan while itâs stunned.
And for non-Titan usage, the lower amounts will always apply.
Bonus Follow-Up: devs confirmed that Boss Ursena in Season 2 is not intended to count as a Titan. (though that was said 4 weeks ago when Harpoons worked a little differently, so Iâd be curious if the higher amounts apply when sheâs stunned, which would presumably be a bug)
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Thanks 
Probably wonât try that, Iâm planning on completing the hard one within the next 24 hours. If Ursena do not beat me up 
Again, does anybody have a description of the new items?
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I tested titans as much as I could with the last adjustments before beta closed again, and if I didnât use a harpoon at all, I didnât get any parts. So Iâm hoping thatâs how it will work now in the version update.
Also watching in hopes that the build times are reduced, it seemed an almost universal complaint for most (not all) .
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3 questions about harpoonsâŠ
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How many can you take with you
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Is an attack missable? So should I wait till wu or ranvir is done?
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Do you get more damage if an ally coordinates his harpoons within an hour? Or within ⊠minutes?
Tx
you can take 5, as far as I know itâs like a bomb or axe and I didnât see any missesâŠand I was using Ranvir. Iâm not sure about more damage using at the same time as someone else, doesnât seem it would, like any other battle item. Maybe testers who had more time to try that would know for sure.
Some are just beefed up versions of what we already have, such as time freeze and hurricane, and could very well be changed or adjusted from what we saw in beta.
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I added this to the top post:
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Great!
This Panacea is surely a 5* item, wow. Titan Banner is a beefed up Kiril.
And CARPET CALTROPING!!!
This is perfect, itâs exactly what I was saying Barry.
The update is for the top alliances, screws the mixed alliances and completely ignores the casual alliances.
Itâs the mixed alliances, who already have p2w players who are carrying casual players, which make up the majority of the game that suffer here. And the divide will continue to grow with updates like this. Itâs not hard to see for anyone who can put themselves into the shoes of others. Iâm very p2w, am in a comfortable alliance for myself, but I donât test the game in beta for myself, I test it for everyone. I look at each update as if I was each different player. The p2w player whoâs bored should rejoice! The p2w and c2p players in mixed alliances should realize theyâre being forced to make a decision, and the f2p players are just being told yet again that theyâre not wanted by the dev team.
The problem we as players run into is this: as usual, the people who refuse to see outside their safe zone canât see whatâs doing on(donât care âdoesnât effect meâ) and are who SG relies on to make these messed up updates be accepted. Thatâs the point. Just because you think the update doesnât effect your safe zone doesnât mean you should just be quiet and accept a crap product. Thatâs lazy. Like letting your dogs bark outside because it doesnât bother you but everyone else in the neighborhood hates you. You donât care cuz youâre oblivious and people are too nice to do what they should do and paint your house with eggs.
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This is not true, most beta complained about the same thing you did.
SG just decided to go this route. While I donât know why, I do have my guesses. The original design was the harpoons were per player basis, you donât use harpoons, you donât get loot. Many people complained about how expensive harpoons were (they required 4 crude iron per harpoons â now they are cheaper to produce), so my guess is that SG was worry about ppl complaining about not having enough to make harpoons so they canât get the new titan parts.
Then they switch to this new messed up design, and most of beta said this is was a worst designed
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Zephyr didnât tell you to be quiet. Several of your posts above contained personal attacks. Thatâs what he warned about.
For what itâs worth, I think youâd have a much easier time bringing people around to your point of view if you toned that stuff down a bit. You clearly know what youâre talking about, but when you come at people with insults while making your points, youâre more likely to incite defensive/combative responses.
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Iâve briefly locked this topic so people can take a little time to cool down.
The community has a wide diversity of opinions, and each of us has different things that we love and hate about the game. It is possible to disagree strongly about whether a change is good or bad without either person arguing in bad faith or being some kind of a shill.
What is not ok is repeatedly attacking players who disagree with you, and then complaining about it when youâre asked multiple times to tone it down.
When we re-open this thread, please focus the discussion back on the new content and the changes, rather than on fellow players
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Just a quick question, in order to start working on sh21 and the new +advanced buildings, does your entire city have to be maxed all lvl 20 across the board? Can the new buildings only be built upon a maxed lvl 20 building? Or like a barracks the hunters Lodge can take up a craft lvl 17 slot for example?
Just to be clear, I do care about ftp and ctp players, which is why Iâm in an active and growing alliance with those individuals. The only point I disputed that you made was the mass exodus that youâve implied will happen⊠I simply stated that they (p2w) have plenty of reason to do so already and this isnât likely a breaking point as items for titans donât amount to much⊠but in all games like this (and life in general), people want to be around folks that put as much time and effort into progress as they do themselves, for some reason ctp and ftp are being lumped into the idea of lack of effort and they shouldnât be. So long as my team gives effort, makes hits and grows, weâre all good, if they donât, then they are shown the door. Iâve kicked lazy p2w and lazy ctp but itâs never been about the money they spent or didnât. I think we can come to a mutual understanding if youâd give some effort and stop trying to insult me and simply talk about your real concerns. If your concern is the gap is growing, sure, there is a conversation to be had there, and Iâm happy to hear it and listen to solutions as opposed to just hearing the problem. Hope we can get off to a better understanding moving forward.
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