Testing 5* before ascending, in the LB2 environment?

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@Dudeious.Maximus,
I debated just writing this in the LB2 thread, so if it needs to be merged please do so with my apologies. My hope is to have a conversation with @RandaPanduh, specifically about testing out new heroes. For which the LB2 discussion is already a bit chaotic.

Hello Randa!
I see you have been eating some mats!
I hope the result has been a fruitful one.

So…
Before Costumes,
Before LB,
Before Emblems:

I was testing Legendary at 3.7
and found that Epics were often more effective during that time, over their un-ascended 5* counterparts. This added a smidge of skepticism to my tests. But I was able to play around with them and make good decisions for which legendary I planned on investing with one of the most valuable currencies:
4* mats…

Then came emblems, costumes and LB.
And I started to struggle with giving my shiny new pulls a proper test run…
Often dropping cups for a chance to feel them out, but… the lower cups were less indicative of the actual environment that I intended to plant them in.

With LB2 incoming,
I’m very curious to hear your thoughts on how to manage sorting value in the legendary camp.

How do you plan to sample 3.7 against 4.9?

All us E&Peeps have experience with "Ascension Selection".
Please chime in to the open forum!
I seek out Randa, as I find her experience with 3.7 legendary to have no equal.

that I know of

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Idk if I fully understand what you’re looking for, so imma just share :poop: and you can lemme know if you’d like specifics / etc

Honestly, with LB2 coming, I’m wondering how well 3/70’s will hold up. I’m thinking the way I play now, with a few 4/80’s, is gonna feel vaguely similar to me playing with pure 3/70’s when these second LB hit. However, depending on the heroes themselves, I know it is possible to use em vs fully emblemed / LB 5* nowadays. Means I’m sure it’s possible to do once these new materials hit too. Just… Not rainbow :sweat_smile: (and the more meta the hero, the better you’ll be off)

Prioritizing which 5* is obvi gonna be player / roster dependent. Me? I usually go with versatile heroes, as they’ll affect the most areas. Offensive vs defense too, as I’d rather play with my heroes. But for you, it may be different

Also: maxing offensive heroes. I’m finding a huge change to pure Offensive Heroes from going to 3/70 to 4/80. Used to be, offensive heroes had to be paired with EDD and DD just to be semi-effective. If one died? I’m sol. Now,.my offensive heroes can run solo… and that’s just with 4* mats (no emblems or LB used yet). Heroes like Magni, Jove, Quenell, etc that are damage dealers, tbh really suck without mats lol

The supports feel very similar, just obvi last longer.

4* wise, yeah, I found the survivability, or hell, even the offensive power of 4* to be much great than their 3/70 counterparts. I’d often use 4* for titans, as their attack stats were higher. However, 5* skills are typically better… more well rounded. As some 5* have the same amount of skills in one as three separate 4* :sweat_smile:. And they’re usually higher numbers, too. So in that case, I did find myself using a mix of the two.

To make 3/70’s work the most, high stacks (3-2, 4-1, mono), revive, mana control, EDD + DD, double healers… were all essential synergies, I found. Off color healers, and 1-2-3 punch in one color, would often be best. But then, if you don’t get your colors within the first… Idk, five turns, you’re sol less your reviver can save your :peach: and that’s not vs the most recent meta heroes. Vs them, I doubt 3/70’s could beat without a stellar staring board. (The Anne’s, Joves, Ogimas, etc of the game)

Idk if any of this helps, or if it is just a mess of rambles, but lemme know if there’s anything you’d like me to elaborate on further. & Apologies for the late reply; I’m real :poop: at communicating :sweat_smile:

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Yeah, right?! :joy:

Trying to get a "feel" for 3.7’s before ascending comes with added challenges with all the new roster development material.
For example: I ascended my first 5* hero (Leo) and used him regularly for about 2 months, maybe 3 months. Then he joined a long list of ascended 5* that now… never see the light of day.

Afterwards… I began testing them out!
Rigorously!
Which was easy to do before emblems & LB

It sounds like you’re on to the same game plan I am. Connect synergies, and give them a go.
Maybe testing out against S1 dark lord might be a good option.
The raid arena just seems like a rough place to get a good feel for new heroes anymore…

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When even now 3.70 heroes can be killed by a few slash attacks, I think you can’t