🏗 Stronghold 21, Hunter's Lodge, Titan Battle Items & Advanced Buildings FAQs

[Shohoku79]

Ah, must be early morning, I thought I saw the Iron / Food Storage having additional options, must’ve been looking at the Mines and Farms. I haven’t had coffee then yet.

In regards to the advanced versions of storages / mines / farms. I would really question using the phrase “more advanced” if all they do is just to increase the production/capacity. With the Advanced Housing being able to train recruits, which cuts down on the need to constantly farm for them, I can see the more efficiency in that. I don’t think it would break the game if:

• Advanced Mines can occasionally produce Crude Iron (hey, you got to find some raw ore first before you refine them into bars, right?)
• Advanced Farms can occasionally produce Common Herbs, Potent Leaves, Oil, Large Bones, etc. (low leveled farmable items, what good is a farm if it can only produce meat?
• Advanced Iron Storage - In addition to increasing capacity, perhaps have the ability to auto craft certain items that requires iron
• Advanced Food Storage - In addition to increasing capacity, perhaps have the ability to auto craft certain items that requires ham

[zephyr1]

Those are interesting ideas, and could certainly be suggested in #ideas-feature-requests.

I’m not sure why they chose the “more efficient” description for the Release Notes.

Perhaps they meant in the sense of a more efficient factory, i.e. more production for that space in your base?

[koco]

@zephyr1

Yes, the Iron Storage, Food Storage, Mine, and Farm need to be Level 20 to convert to their Advanced version.

I just confirmed that with Staff.

Thank you for the confirmation.
But what about the advanced house? Doesn’t it have to be lvl 20? Will there be any difference in recruits storage space, if it would be created out of sub-20 lvl house?

[zephyr1]

I believe the House is the same, I just forgot to list it.

I’ll ask for explicit confirmation, thanks for asking!

[Gryphonknight]

@koco

Will there be any difference in recruits storage space, if it would be created out of sub-20 lvl house?

Rumor says several Beta testers suggested a just using Storage 21 instead of Advanced Storage 1 to avoid this confusion.

Just like level ( see notes ) players will just have to get used to being confused.

Maybe they could call Advanced storage/ production buildings "Ultra buildings " and Barracks, Lodge, Lab, and Academy "Advanced buildings " since each set has different rules. And "Advanced buildings " is already used for Barracks.

Notes

@Gryphonknight

Level up, level down
(http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html )

[ChoppedLiver]

Great info here, thanks to all those contributing so excellently… as always.

One piece of information I don’t remember seeing yet, what are the stronghold level requirements to take the advanced buildings to higher levels? Looks like they go to level 10 like barracks do, and 5 additional SH levels… is it 2 advanced building levels that unlock for each SH level over 20? Or can they go to level 10 at SH 21? Or…?

[Kerridoc]

Nah, the “ultra buildings” will be released in 2024, but will take until 2030 to build out completely.

[zephyr1]

@koco

Thank you for the confirmation.
But what about the advanced house? Doesn’t it have to be lvl 20? Will there be any difference in recruits storage space, if it would be created out of sub-20 lvl house?

@zephyr1

I believe the House is the same, I just forgot to list it.

I’ll ask for explicit confirmation, thanks for asking!

A Staff member got back to me that they believe the House is the same as well.

[zephyr1]

@ChoppedLiver

One piece of information I don’t remember seeing yet, what are the stronghold level requirements to take the advanced buildings to higher levels? Looks like they go to level 10 like barracks do, and 5 additional SH levels… is it 2 advanced building levels that unlock for each SH level over 20? Or can they go to level 10 at SH 21? Or…?

Advanced Buildings can be fully upgraded as of Stronghold 21.

I’ve added a new FAQ above to address that, thanks!

@zephyr1

Do I need to upgrade my Stronghold past Level 21 in order to continue upgrading the new Advanced Buildings?

No, each of the new Advanced Buildings can be fully maxed without further upgrades to the Stronghold.

Additional buildings unlock at Stronghold Levels 23 and 25, however. (See How many of each building are available? for more on that.)

[AnayaL]

“Titan parts will drop in loot when a sufficient number of Giant Harpoons are used on the Titan by your alliance.”

Does anybody know what a “sufficient number” is? Will the parts drop for every titan (1* to 12*)? Can the number of used harpoons by the alliance be tracked & seen elsewhere?

[AnayaL]

And: will the Giant Harpoon(s) occupy one of the four battle items slots? How many harpoons can be used by one player on single titan?

[Kerridoc]

Yes, they occupy an item slot. I believe you can bring 5 harpoons.

In beta, the cutpoints on a 12* titan were 17, 44 and 125 harpoons. We’ll need to work out what the sweet spot is…my guess is the middle tier.

[zephyr1]

Related to those questions, I also just added this:

@zephyr1

How many Giant Harpoons can I take into battle? Where can I use them?

You can take up to 5 Giant Harpoons at once. They occupy a Battle Item Slot, like any other Battle Item does.

Giant Harpoons can be used for Titans as well as Quests and regular World Map Stages.

Because they’re considered a 4* Item, they can also be used in Challenge Events — but only on the Legendary Stages.

[TheSchmoo]

@PasasHill

Does this mean that I can convert buildings that are not level 20 (after I upgrade my SH to level 21)?

The level requirement for building conversion to the Barracks was level 5. I believe I saw that in beta the requirement was the same for Hunter’s Lodge. Would recommend converting another Forge.

All the other buildings apparently can only be ‘converted’ (it’s really just an upgrade) from the level 20 version of the same type of building. Which makes sense.

Also, you are apparently limited to one of each advanced building right now?

[zephyr1]

@AnayaL

“Titan parts will drop in loot when a sufficient number of Giant Harpoons are used on the Titan by your alliance.”

Does anybody know what a “sufficient number” is? Will the parts drop for every titan (1* to 12*)? Can the number of used harpoons by the alliance be tracked & seen elsewhere?

Good question!

I just added this to the FAQ:

@zephyr1

How many Giant Harpoon hits are needed on a Titan for it to drop Titan Parts?

Credit to @LEN1N78 for this data.

Source: LEN1N78’s Beta cost Google Sheet

NOTE: All of these numbers are from Beta, and are subject to change.

Harpoon Hits for…	1*	2*	3*	4*	5*	6*	7*	8*	9*	10*	11*	12*	13*	14*
…titan dropping Titan Parts	1	4	4	5	7	8	10	11	13	14	16	17	19	20
…2 extra Titan Parts	3	7	11	14	18	22	26	29	33	37	41	44	48	52
…5 extra Titan Parts	10	20	31	41	52	62	73	83	94	104	115	125	136	146

[DGERic]

Are those Titan Part drops cumulative?

I.e. if you throw 94 Harpoons at a 9* Titan will it drop EIGHT Titan Parts?

[Oliz]

Yeah, I like your first two suggestions here, herbs, roots, veggies and woods are synonymous to farm, there should be chances of them out of advanced farms ; also ores, metal fragments and the likes are associated with mines, why not? It is a very good idea to be able to get some from advanced mine.

However, for advance storage (food and iron) let it be just storage without production complexities.

Perhaps we should look forward to an advanced watchtower, that could perform such additional production as well as limited storage functions.

[zephyr1]

@DGERic

Are those Titan Part drops cumulative?

I.e. if you throw 94 Harpoons at a 9* Titan will it drop EIGHT Titan Parts?

This is a good question for @LEN1N78, who may have explicit data from Beta for every Titan star level.

[DGERic]

This is going to take some serious Alliance communication… how much is it going to suck when you end up throwing 90 harpoons at a 9* and just miss the threshold?!?

[princess1]

This has probably already been covered but I just realized my own mistake. Back when we had too much iron we couldn’t use (yesterday ) I had converted a mine to a troops barracks to slow production.

I just caught it now and switched it back to a crafting forge building.

Unfortunately on my other profile, I’m currently upgrading my barracks for another 2 days and it’s sitting on a mine