So this or layla?

I’m playing Puzzle Combat, which is Empire and Puzzle’s sister game (release is limited right now). Everyone there started from scratch too, but many of us brought over our knowledge from Empires to that game.

What does this mean? I have recently gone through basically the same start you’re going through right now :smiley: So here’s my tips:

I disagree completely with ignoring 2*s, unless you’re planning on spending money on the initial offer the game gives you for starting to play. And TBH, the starting out offer is actually really nice.

If you’re not planning on spending money, then leveling up at least one 2* of each color is very helpful starting out. You will barely have enough food to level the 3*s, I know to many veteran players that sounds funny but the struggle is real when you start playing.

If you are going to spend money initially though (if only on the first offer), then save your gems on the elemental summon portals (one 300 gem pull for each color). Even at their base ascension with a few levels, the 3*s can get you through most of the initial provinces.

Regardless of whether you spend or not though, push your base to level 12 asap. At that point, you can level up your training camp to level 12, and research Rare guaranteed training. Level 13 is better though, because it gives you 3*s with a small chance of a 4* instead.

EDIT: Layla > Silthus imo, to answer your question :wink:

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@Shohoku79, @nevarmaor and @PapaHeavy, I was also F2P for a long time, and I am an unproud member of the First Banefeeders society.

Well, back then, a good friend of mine taught me how to better summon, and before I knew it, I had a complete rainbow 4* team , with no need to level any 2* further.

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I am also part of the First Muggyfeeders Society, I did not even take a real look at his special until I saw a video of him working… guess what? Haven’t got him any more.

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Oh man, that sucks!! Although had I not seen videos of muggy in action before pulling him I probably would have done the same. Thank GOD for this forum!!!

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these are the heros that I have chosen to play with. I managed to pull two trainers one for purple so I upgraded layla and one for red so I upgraded sharan. I have been focusing on using all my 1* to upgrade my heros according to color. Now let me get to the point.

  1. Any suggestions on positioning for attack? understand that your strongest goes in the middle this being bane for now, but does it go to the left in strength then? I put the healer far right she still seems to get nailed a lot.
    Ragghnild or til for attack? And which for defences? What’s best positioning for defence?
    Could someone explain the slots according to what goes where?

Hi Ajsaker, may I suggest you to read these guides from Master List of E&P Links & Player Guides?

They are very helpful for every beginner and even for adept players :slight_smile:

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I would recommend to save your gems up to 300 and do an elemental summon. At your point of roster it does not really matter whom to chose. We could help here but to be honest it make no sense to feed anything to a 1 or 2 star hero. Do your daily summon, hope for a 3 star and summon better heroes with 300 gems elemental or if active 350 gems for Atlantis (better heroes here).

GOOD LUCK!!

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I also suggest you reading guide, and also focus on your 1 thread/topic, not spreading with the same/similar question thread/topic.

The guides will give you the best info. As for just good basics I’d recommend focusing on improving 3* heroes and above. Save Gems to try and do elemental summons as you can to get stronger heroes. And lastly if you are struggling to beat a certain instance or fight try color stacking against the weak color. (e.g. putting in two blue heroes against red instead of one blue)

And don’t rush the lvls in map, if you can’t get pass some lvl, drop your energy, where its safe win, but that’s probably are in guides as well

Hi @Ajsaker, and welcome to the forum. Since you have a cluster of questions all centered around your roster and different ways of using it, I’ve pulled the threads together. I think people can answer your questions collectively, rather than having paralell threads with very similar info.

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The positioning of the team matters in the sense that the AI fires off specials from left to right, so you would want your attack buffer (such as if using silthus) to be if the left-most position so he buffs the attacks of everyone else first.With your roster, there isn’t much difference in positioning other than having Bane in the center as he is the most sturdy.

The map progress will come as your 1* and 2* heroes are replaced with 3* and higher, so don’t worry too much about lack of progress there. Also, read the beginner guides to learn about banking recruits in your training camps, level 4 until you unlock level 11. By banking recruits, you can start cranking your training camps nonstop, which helps immensely for leveling your heroes.

How do I know what a buffer is

Buffers are heroes which buff an aspect of your team, such a silthus buffing attack or olaf buffing defense. There are also debuffers, which debuff an aspect of the opposing team, such as Ulmer giving opponents defense down.

When assembling your team order, only attack up buffer and defense down debuffers really matter (in very basic and simplified analysis) with the left/right ordering. That fact will change as you get better heroes with more varied specials, but at this point those are your major concern at the 2* heroes level.

Very often. And I was attacking with dark heroes, that’s probably why I lost. I underestimated that +20.

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Positioning considerations are different for defense and attack.

Defense

On defense you are facing gem attacks. The positioning of the heroes means the centre hero faces 3 columns of gems while the others only face one each (until the centre hero dies). Thus the centre is the “tank”, where you place your most durable hero. The AI that controls your defense fires specials from left to right, so buffers/debuffers are typically placed to the left of centre to fire specials before other heroes attack. The corners (wings) are the hardest to hit with gems so they are typically where your weakest heroes are placed. Just to complicate things, slow mana heroes are typically not placed in the wings as they generate mana slower there. The more your hero is hit the faster it gets to its special. You also want to avoid placing same colour heroes side by side as that makes them susceptible to strong colour attacks (eg green gems on blue heroes). A horizontal match usually hits two heroes and if strong against both then does nore damage than if not strong against both.

Attack

On attack you control the firing of your heroes so placement is not as important. The main consideration is do not put heroes that boost nearby allies on the wings (that wastes 1/3 of their special if no ally is on one side of them).

Good luck.

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So attack goes right to left defence left to right got it ty

Attack goes in whatever order you decide to fire them. Defense goes left to right because that is how the AI is programmed. It also never defers firing the special, which as attacker we can do all the time.

Well, probably wait on the yellow elemental summon, since Bane is the best of the yellow 3-stars, and 4-stars are just a distraction at this point in the game.

I don’t understand here, why suggest yellow? OP has already *3 Bane (best yellow), and the only *3 OP has is yellow. Better is doing summon for elemental summon except for yellow, so wait on the elemental summon Red, Green, Blue and Purple.

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