Congratulations on your results! Four five star heroes in ~100 pulls is basically right in line with expectations (depending on the exact quantity of your 50+ pulls during Atlantis), based on the published, known, and often-not-understood odds.
4 hotm in over 100 that are extra heroes that you get. And 4 copies of same hero itâs ok if you f2p, Iâm not that happy since I will only use one.
Just cut back on your spending a bit
Have patience
Heroes always come back around
If youâre that focused on certain heroes, start stashing in game resources such as event coins for specific events and such
From what I get here everyone here itâs ok with the low percentage to actually get something interesting and the bad luck system going around, well Iâm not maybe because I saw that there are other games that actually reward you for supporting them.
Thatâs true but also the best scenario in pulls - to âgive you something moreâ. Unfortunately most of the time pulls are crap and there is clear image of odds in the upper left corner in the pulls when you press the â?â.
You canât really expect some good pulls with odds close to (+/-) 1%. Thatâs definitely not right but itâs what this game offers, sadlyâŠ
You can only take those odds and play with them, if you decide to spend OR just donât spend at all and try having fun with what game offers you. Thatâs the only advise i can give you.
Having a couple of good pulls in x100 draws is actually not bad.
Iâll be the first to tell you that my luck with the claw game is as good as Squidwardâs. Have boundaries on spending and understand that your expectations will be met less than 50% of the timeâŠmaybe even less.
Yup been that way since the game started
Anyone that can read isnât surprised
Are you saying we should apologize for being literate?
If youâre expecting a fundamental part of the gameâs design to suddenly change because you dislike it, yes i would highly advocate playing a different game
Would be the same reaction as if my friends and i are playing yahtzee and you come in moaning that it isnât like go fish and if we donât change the dice to cards then youâre going to play a different game
Majority rule is typically way of the world
Guessing by SGâs success, your unacceptance of the way the game works is in the minority regardless of what people write. The truth is always in dollar signs when it comes to things such as these.
I havenât seen any data, published by SGG or tracked by users, that the summoning odds change based on already owning a hero. Therefore I would feel most comfortable theorizing that already owning a hero changes the odds in no way, until I see some compelling evidence suggesting otherwise.
So, in terms of what you should do, my suggestion would be to alter your philosophic approach to summons. Youâre saying youâre not happy because you received a result that was right in line with the published expectations. It feels like either you donât understand the probability or your expectations are unrealistic because theyâre grounded in emotions.
Also, if you felt like the HOTM is unappealing then a strategic adjustment could have been to not summon.
Tell me about it, in the past year I got 5 morgans
Pulled 2 myself this event and havenât even maxed the first yet
Mainly because greens are a pain in the a$$ to use in wars that are flooded with gravemakers
Seriously, what are the odds of getting the same 5* summon after summon? No other 5 from Avalon
Ps: I gave up atlantis as I get 4+ chochins per summon
These are probably what you should be playing then.
No offense but nowhere has it ever been stated with this game that you get ârewarded for supporting themâ, and thinking that you should be is what is leading to the frustration. All spending does is give you more chances at the same terrible odds. Does buying 100 or 1000 lottery tickets give you better odds than buying one? No.
Gems
You can spend money on lots of things ( hero slots, team slots, 75 gem continues for rare quest/ tournaments, avatars, pins, etc.).
But if you spend gems for heroes, you need a very big spending budget because Season 3/ Valhalla summons gate is even more of the same.
Shards and trade ( together they fight crime, er merciless RNG )
It is possible shards may fix this problem ( see notes ), but Hero Academy is unlikely to fix it.
Trade seems to be NO
until the buy out is complete.
Fixed price
One of the many reason I am retired in game ( I have not used WE since 2020-Jan-11 ) and semi retired on forums. I find fixed priced games ( Zelda Breath of Wind, Stardew Valley, etc. ) much more relaxing than micro transactions ( though I still play Niantic games with mom ).
Notes
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Canât put it better than this.
This bit was also good
Next time my kids trip over their laces, Iâm going to suggest a Strategic Adjustment to tie their shoes
I appreciate that every one tries to comfort me, and I know the ~1% ods but to be honest itâs not ok. And even if you are free to play or not no one is rly ok with this, most likely accepted it.
I will do the same and stop spending and if I get bored then stop playing.
I feel you⊠did 30 pulls in Avalon and got Morgan and dupe Khagan,
still feel bad even though I technically beat the odds
I think there needs to be another path to getting the new toys we want. like chasing a specific hero with low odds or choice of hero fragments (???)
Thatâs probably why Season 3 is coming.
I really am okay with it. (Iâm almost F2P - ÂŁ8.97 total.)
I think this is a smart decision that will make you happier.
This is a common problem with loot boxes
Transparency
Click for transparency discussion
From a discussion on Pokémon GO shiny hunting ( think cosmetic only costumes).
(Are lootboxes gambling? Australian inquiry - #125 by Gryphonknight)
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