🏅 Raid Tournaments – Log, Overview, Attacking, Matchmaking, Scoring, Restrictions, Special Rules, and Rewards

[Guvnor]

All valid points,

I don’t mind so much tweaking the percentages to being even for the difficulty rating.

@zephyr1

Except maybe when it ended up causing things like eliminating any way to counter Alfrike.

But that’s the fun of it makes it more of a challenge & more fun

[Zathrus]

I like, but I’d modify it slightly— 50/50 chance of tournament type, excluding whatever this week’s was (so no 2 rush attacks in a row).

And same for element restrictions. If class restrictions are added, then that too.

If it comes up no restrictions, reroll.

Note that class restrictions give a bit of an advantage to costumes, which is probably a plus in SG’s book. I’d be fine with it except that costumed heroes in a tournament lock them that way for a week. This is just dumb UX.

[ierazo]

I think this is perfect, every tournament should have a 1 color forbidden (even two would be fun!)
Also think 5* tournaments should be more rare, after all we use the 5* everywhere else.
Maybe reversing to 40% 3 star, 35% 4* and 25% five star, but even the uniform distribution is fine

[Arthemis]

Any guesses for the next week tournament?

[Guvnor]

Likely the same as Tournament 17 which was a 4* Rush Attack, no purples.

Current tournament is the same as 16 (3* Buff booster, no reds); previous one was same as 15 (3* bloody battle, all colours).

[diesdas]

@zephyr1

Since we know the rotation was 32 weeks as of December

I am wondering why we have 32 different tournaments only. With 3 rules x 3 rarity restrictions x 6 colour restrictions, 54 different tournament formats would be possible.

[Guvnor]

Absolutely no idea why / how SGG ended up on 32 week rotation…

I tried asking Staff in a separate part of the forum but never got any response back… Typical tho…

@Guvnor

Question - Why Is there a set Tournament Rule Rotation?

Question is borne from two places:

1. SGG announcement by @mhalttu back in the 2* tournament debarcle (see below)
2. Ongoing rotation clearly evident to the point where I have been making the Tournament Threads 5-8 days in advance & have been right every time…

@mhalttu

The weekly tournaments are not random, they are run on a rotation. Of course, we do reserve the right to change the contents of the rotation at any time. Right now the rotation is 32 weeks.

Skip down a bit to my possible solution…

Why?

Is it mainly an “ease of coding” thing to put the tournaments on a set rotation? It seems like it’s a bit of a missed opportunity… There are many tournament combinations which will just never happen.

There are a total of 54 different Tournament Combinations with the existing 6 elemental Restrictions, 3 rules & 3 star levels… But the tournaments are on a 32 week rotation.

Current Distribution

So after 56 tournaments (to date) we are:

• roughly even on the distribution of tournament rules
• Skewed distribution towards 5* Battles (which is fine I guess)
• MASSIVELY skewed in the elemental restriction.

Tournaments Never Existed:

Below 20 Tournaments have never (and based on the ongoing rotation) will never exist

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5*, Bloody Battle, No Yellow
5*, Bloody Battle, No Purple
5*, Buff Booster, No Yellow
5*, Buff Booster, No Red
5*, Rush Attack, No Purple
5*, Rush Attack, No Green
4*, Bloody Battle, No Yellow
4*, Bloody Battle, No Green
4*, Buff Booster, No Purple
4*, Rush Attack, No Red
4*, Rush Attack, No Blue
4*, Rush Attack, No Green
3*, Bloody Battle, No Yellow
3*, Bloody Battle, No Purple
3*, Bloody Battle, No Blue
3*, Buff Booster, No Yellow
3*, Buff Booster, No Purple
3*, Buff Booster, No Blue
3*, Buff Booster, No Green
3*, Rush Attack, No Red

Additionally there are 2 more that have occurred which will be excluded from the ongoing rotation (based on there being 34 types existing so far but only 32 in the ongoing cycle. One has already been excluded/skipped:
Tournament #14 -> 5*, Buff Booster, Nil
Tournaments below #7 also appear to be being ignored in the ongoing rotation.

So of the 21/22 tournaments that are not being repeated we have the following distribution:

Rule	Count
3*	8
4*	6
5*	7
Bloody Battle	7
Buff Booster	8
Rush Attack	6
No Red	3
No Blue	3
No Green	4
No Yellow	5
No Purple	5
Nil	1

Which looks kinda even (except for in the colour department)… But if you then look at what is missing in each Star Rating you can see its not at all even:

@Guvnor

Possible Solution

This is actually something Zeph & I discussed on the Tournament Log sheet a little while back.

@Guvnor

My RNG solution:

My suggestion would be

Hero Resrriction *
40% chance for 5*
35% chance for 4*
25% chance for 3*

Rule
Even split across all rules (current and future)
Thus 33.33% chance for each rule
(Buff booster, rush attack, bloody battle)

Elemental restrictions
Even chance for all restrictions, including no restriction.
Thus 16.667% chance for each colour restriction (no red, blue, green, purple, yellow, none)

Additional proposal - class restrictions
I’d also like to add in a proposal for class restrictions.
No class restrictions = 30%
7% chance for restriction on any of the 10 classes

Notes & Other Requests about Upgrading Tournaments

Any chance to have a couple more tournament rules

[yelnats_24]

There are 6 possible element rules.
There are 3 possible rarities.
There are 3 possible special rules.

6×3×3 = 54

When will the developer increase the cycle from 32 to 54 so it can include all possible combination?

[cyber13]

@Petri

“The difficulty of enemies that the players face at the beginning of the Tournament is now determined by the 5 best heroes in their roster.”

Which is why 5* tournaments are off limits for non-donaters. After 2 years in the game you have around 10 leveled 5* heroes, usually disproportionally of one color (3 green, not a single red) so there’s only couple workable teams, even when you select 4* to match against opponent’s center.

What’s the point at all, if with 4100 max rainbow team I have to always play with 3700 ones against 4300-4700 in 9 out of 10 cases?!

[yelnats_24]

@cyber13

Which is why 5* tournaments are off limits for non-donaters.

Which is why as non-donaters I purposely witholding emblems for 5*, I give them to 4* instead so their power at +20 are similiar to non-emblemed 5*. Now I have 28 heroes whose power is between 735-795. 12× 5* + 16× 4*.

That way my attack team is not too far below the best 5.

[Dorkus]

A new $30 tournament “offer” comes out on the same day they switch up the pattern?

Glad I trained up gill-ra for the no-yellow 3* rush event not happening tomorrow.

[LordDust]

This is not the first time that offer has appeared, it wasn’t invented for this “out of pattern” event.

@Dorkus

Glad I trained up gill-ra for the no-yellow 3* rush event not happening tomorrow.

Well, there’s TRWTF right there… even for a Gill-Ra only event, never train Gill-Ra!

If I paid attention to the calendar, I’d be annoyed too. Rare is the only level I can really excel at.

[Yikers]

Can someone update this log? It hasn’t been updated in a month. I can’t remember the last 4 tournaments. Thanks!

[PlayForFun]

Only @zephyr1 or another moderator like @Guvnor @littleKAF or @Dudeious.Maximus can udate it…

[Dudeious.Maximus]

Pass to This @Guvnor

[PlayForFun]

Feb 14:

[14 Feb, 2021] - 95th Raid Tournament - 3* Buff Booster, All Elements

Schedule Preparation Phase Begins Battle Phase Begins Rewards Distributed 2021-02-14T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) 2021-02-15T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) 2021-02-21T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) This Week’s Restrictions & Special Rule Elements Allowed Hero Rarities Allowed Troop Rarities Allowed …

Feb 21:

[21 Feb, 2021] - 96th Raid Tournament - 5* Rush Attack, All Elements

Schedule Preparation Phase Begins Battle Phase Begins Rewards Distributed 2021-02-21T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) 2021-02-22T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) 2021-02-27T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) This Week’s Restrictions & Special Rule The allowed elements and hero/troop rarities, as well as the Special Rule will be available once the Tournament opens for joining and setting Defense Teams. …

Feb 28:

[28 Feb, 2021] - 97th Raid Tournament - 5* Bloody Battle, No Nature/ Green

WARNING: UNCONFIRMED Previously, Raid Tournaments have been followed a sequence, and we know there’s a 32-week cycle, so this week’s format is projected to continue following the sequence — but will not be confirmed until it shows up live in the game. There have been a number recently which have deviated from the previous rotation! Schedule Preparation Phase Begins Battle Phase Begins Rewards Distributed 2021-02-28T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) 2021-03-0…

BTW: It should no longer contain the UNCONFIRMED text

Mar 07:

[07 Mar, 2021] - 98th Raid Tournament - TBC {3* Rush Attack, All Elements}

WARNING: UNCONFIRMED Previously, Raid Tournaments have been followed a sequence, and we know there’s a 32-week cycle, so this week’s format is projected to continue following the sequence — but will not be confirmed until it shows up live in the game. There have been a number recently which have deviated from the previous rotation! Schedule Preparation Phase Begins Battle Phase Begins Rewards Distributed 2021-03-07T08:00:00Z (UTC) (08:00 GMT) 2021-03-1…

[littleKAF]

@PlayForFun

Only @zephyr1 or another moderator like @Guvnor @littleKAF or @Dudeious.Maximus can udate it…

We can make it a wiki such that the whole community can update it.

[littleKAF]

I just did it. I even added the one for tomorrow - like I’m looking into the future.

Enjoy.