Quests should be for all level players not just high level players

Speaking of Diablo (awesome game btw), I had a lvl 18 chargedin that could kill lvl 80 characters in duels. My WhirlWind barbarian with 2 BotD kicked ■■■ too. Man the memories :smile:

Back to topic, I partly agree with OP. I mean, I understand where his frustration comes from. When I started playing this game everything in it was slow and tedious. Long waits to upgrade buildings, not enough world energy to play S1 maps, not enough heroes… I started playing during Christmas event and I was so frustrated that I couldn’t finish a single mission that I almost drop the game.

This game needs events for new players too. Having to wait 3-4 months to be able to finish rare tier for the first time is crazy. Not everybody knows how to beat events with the heroes RNG gives them. And not everybody waits for that long tbh.

A simple solution would have been creating raid tournaments and events tiers for 1* and 2* heroes. Players could use the first 20 emblems the game gives for free after maxing a few heroes. People would be competing in events almost right away. But SG staff forgot emblems were supposed to upgrade low level heroes too and missed a golden chance to improve the game for beginners. Too bad.

Oh well, not every game can be as good as Diablo I guess, lol.

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There are 1* and 2* tournament in beta but maybe they didn’t make it to the final cut. What shall I do with my 10 maxed 2*? :roll_eyes:

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I only got 5 maxed 1* and 2* so I guess you’d have the edge in those tournaments :thinking:

But I don’t have leveled 1*… I’m beaten at 1* tourney :woozy_face:

Huh? Rare is basically farming. If you actually want to compete you’re going to drop $$$ into this game. And we’re limited to 3* heroes and 2* battle items, just like you are.

In other words…lighten up Francis!

How are ppl supposed to compete in a 3* tournament when they can’t get mats. Don’t you know how hard is it to get tall boots?
It’s impossible to get tall boots, I mean I would actually have to play the map and go farm, that’s just sounds impossible

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By trying to be sarcastic you’re missing the point. To get into the top 3000th and win a simple epic troop token in any rare event you need at least a few world energy flasks, plenty of axes and arrows, and a deep bench of 3* heroes. Farming 8-7 wont get you anywhere in events. Boots? Ridiculous…

Is it worth the effort to be competitive in events? I’d say no but there aren’t many other options to get mats for 4* heroes.

I don’t think SG will make any 1* or 2* tournaments. I read most beta testers were against it.

Axes, arrows and Mana pots probably yes, a good bench definitely, but not necessarily World Energy Flasks.
I played every level only once and I’m ranked 1100th currently.

@ main topic
Quests are for all players. Everyone is allowed to try.

Rare difficulty can be finished after a few weeks of active playing. A rather good rainbow 3* team + a few extra heroes (fully leveled 2* or partially leveled 3*) is enough to breeze through levels 1-9. A sensible use of items pulls you through stage 10.

Epic difficulty is usually beatable after 2-4 months of FTP playing (payers get 4* earlier and can choose which ones to level up, so they will be able to finish earlier).
A sensible mix of 4* heroes at 3/60 or better and the right 3* heroes (Gunnar/Kailani are fantastic if you don’t already have Wilbur) are necessary, as well as the right items for the last few stages.

Legendary difficulty can be beaten after about 4-8 months of active FTP playing. You don’t need any 5* heroes to complete that difficulty, but a rather good choice of 4* heroes and at least a few fully leveled. I did my first legendary event after about 4 months of playing with Grimm and Boldtusk at 4/70,Kiril at 3/60, Skittleskull at 3/?? (had no 5* heroes nor any other 4*) and most of the regular 3* heroes (there was no Atlantis at that time). Gunnar and Kailani saved me several times, the few time stops, dragon attacks and whirlwinds I had saved pulled me through the last stage which took ages to complete. Can’t remember whether it was Pirates or Guardians of Teltoc.

To sum it up, the monthly events are for everyone. However, you need to build up the right teams to be able to complete the three tiers. But it is Not endgame content for high level players only nor is it necessary to pay anything in order to finish. I even think that there should be another fourth difficulty tier beyond legendary which is directed at very advanced players and which requires a very strong hero roster so that also those 10k+ players with a rainbow 5* team at 4/80 and many fully leveled 4* heroes have a hard nut to crack.

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Needing flask for top 3k on rare? You serious? You just need to slowly play it. If you need world flask, you can gather them slowly and save up a few months like I used to. I got into top 50 in legendary with just one 5* maxed out. I just saved my items and my flask for a few months.
If you want to excel in the game you either need $ or endurance

Getting into top 1100th on the first try, not bad.

I forgot to add good starting boards/good luck is also needed to rank high. Without good boards people definitely will be using a few flasks. A complete beginner who lacks the right heroes will be using lots of materials and flasks to get the prizes. That was my whole point.

I wasn’t talking about myself here @Checker , I’m in top 400 in rare tier right now. I used a single flask to level up and have more hits on a titan but that’s besides the point.

OP is asking for quests and events for beginners because he can’t participate in events with the level he has right now. He lacks heroes and mats. And we all know events are for everyone, TomSnow, nobody is arguing that. I’d argue that not everybody can participate in events tho. It takes months to get there and when players finally get there, they’re up against high level players with deep benches.

I’m in favor of more quests and events. If SG created a 1* newb event for beginners or a super legendary event for high level players it would be great for everyone.

Too bad many people in the forums don’t see change as a good thing and they just argue about the little things.

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If people on here are arguing that quests are for all players now, well i say to you, go start a brand new account now and tell me how many of those quests you can go in and win any at all.

People keep saying that i shouldnt expect to be able yo be competitive in these quests since ive only been playing for a month and I keep saying i dont expect to be competitive in ALL QUESTS, they just need quests for players tjat are new to the game where all new players can enter and no players with maxed out teams can as its not fair.

You guys go play with the big boys and the newbies need their own quests where they have a decent chance to win.

You do know that all the “big boys” were newbies to start? All of us started in a similar position to the one you are currently in. There are plenty of quests and opportunities for new players already.

Even if there were events with lower level caps or lower TP caps, you would not be competitive at the top compared with others because of your still limited knowledge of game play.

Basic quests have three difficulties, just because you cant FINISH all three stages doesnt mean it is not appropriate for beginners.

People keep on conflating the idea of being able to finish ALL stages of an event/quest as what MUST happen for them to feel satisfied. Personally, this is a very “off” mindset to me.

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I started end of last year and have had to compete in quests against everyone who has been playing since the start .
They have the lower tier for begginers to compete .
I didn’t complain and don’t expect to be able to have same rewards or opportunities of someone who has played more than a year than me

However if you want a comp for low level players only then I want i a comp for less than 1 year playing as unfair for me to compete against someone playing for 3 years … see how you ridiculous it can become

If we all are getting our own events, well I want one where I can compete against players that spend less than $20 a month.

It’s all been said before, but you simply will not get what you are hoping for.

The rare challenge is already a place for you to try to COMPLETE. To get in the top 10 doesn’t even get you non-farmable loot. They won’t make an easier challenge where you are limited to beginners that will give you better loot than top 10, just won’t happen. It’s a grind, with no freebies for beginners like what it seems you are asking for. What’s the point of a beginner challenger with no loot?

If I start a new account I will work at completing Rare, and then Epic and the Legend, but even after 1.5 years I have no expectation that I can hit top 100 in any of these and don’t bother. I don’t expect to be competitive without spending money.

I don’t let it bother me, and I worked hard to get the 5 non-farmable 3+ mats available every month like 99.99% of players, the math is actually worse than that.

Again, COMPLETION is our goal, COMPETITIVE is out of reach without serious money and experience. You are hung up on getting to WIN and that is not something most of us will ever see.

I think you meant the Top 100.

The Top 10 of Rare Challenge Events get 2x 3* non-farmable and 1x 4* non-farmable; plus an Avatar, EHT, ETT, flasks, and a Trainer Hero that are all technically non-farmable too.

The Top 100 only gets the EHT, ETT, and WE flask; and of those, only the EHT isn’t already granted to Top 3000, so it’s not much of a prize for getting to that much higher tier.

I will be celebrating my 1 year of playing in about a week. I won’t post my roster here, as I will be doing that at that time, but I would like to chime in on the idea that you cannot “catch” top tier or older players.

In less than 1 year, I have more than a full rainbow max 5* and plenty of max 4* to fill my roster. I can compete with players of any level. I have raided into the top 25 on several occasions without use of flasks. Over time, you definitely can catch up.

That being said, for newer players who have 2, 3, or even 6 months in the game, and expect to compete with top tier players who have 2+ years in the game, is laughable. Put yourself in their shoes. Players with that much time in the game have earned their rosters. They’ve helped build this game to what it is.

The only place where top tier and newer players are in direct competition is the challenge events. To complain that as a X month old player you should be automatically able to compete with the top tier is selfish and disrespectful to those players who pushed through the same barriers you are facing now, spent the time to make their rosters better, and achieved success over time.

Edit : to address quests in general, all players have been newbies before. We all had to bide our time and complete what we could as we gained strength. Slowly, we can complete more and more until finally we can get it all done. That is the price you pay to gain the better rewards. Higher Titans yield better loot. New players facing 1*, 2*, and 3* Titans should not expect loot as good as 10* Titans. That is the progression of the game. This is not a game full of participation trophies. This is a game of taking the time to grow your power to achieve better success.

Rant over. Stay tuned for my E&P birthday post to come in a few days.

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I forget which event, but there is one where the top 100 rare gets two hidden blades

You’re right, apparently just Avalon has that.

Guess they ran out of non-farmables. :man_shrugging:

The rewards for Top 100 and Top 10 are better there all around:

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