280% to all on fast was already available with C Master Lepus (yes, with the mana ailment drawback). Elemental defense down was already available in just 5.5 tiles with Anton (not counting mana troops).
You could already pair Anton with e.g. Onyx and Killhare and obliterate an entire team in 9 tiles.
C Guardian Panther makes it more efficient because you now have the elemental defense down to all and 280% to all combined into one. But it doesn’t fundamentally add something that was previously impossible.
So on offense, she is just a good hero. But she doesn’t change the landscape.
On defense, lol, she is a joke. Low defense, and not the talents you want in a defensive hero. You want a strong defense? Go use the S5 heroes. Their passives and family bonus alone will make your opponent scream in frustration. Panther has no passives, and her family bonus is not only terrible but doesn’t even work if you only have 1 hero.
Finally… have a look at the beta beat for the heroes that are upcoming. You’ll forget all about C Panther soon enough, just like everyone’s already forgotten about previous so-called “overpowered” heroes like Ludwig, C Finley, and others.
To be perfectly clear, I don’t want her to be nerfed. I just find hysterical that you claimed she was completely broken a week ago, but now that you pulled her, she’s just ok on offense and “a joke” on defense.
I particularly love your complete 180 on the c Lepus comparison. 7 days ago, she made him look like a joke, now they’re basically the same. Just perfect.
Come on, have some dignity please.
I really hope you pull c Alasie soon. It’d end your obnoxious “Nerf c Alasie” crusade instantly.
Thanks for the stalking! I hope you wasted a lot of time.
Once I started considering the (complete lack of) passives/family bonus and Panther’s actual usability. I realized she’s really not OP. She won’t be in any defensive team, has no family or passive bonuses, and doesn’t offer anything that existing heroes don’t already. So she’s not OP, despite seeming so right upon release.
BTW, I have C Alasie, the entire X-mas family, C Panther, and pretty much every other hero in the game. Unlike you however, I have an actual interest in balance. Hence why the X-mas heroes needed to be nerfed (the majority of top-100 defenses consisted of the same X-mas team) and why C Alasie needs a nerf (when top alliances use two copies of C Alasie in all 30 war teams, you know something’s broken). Keep pretending it’s for other reasons though… nice try.
Nope, sorry to disappoint. It took about 2 seconds. When someone has a full blown argument about how incredibly OP a hero is, and says the exact opposite as soon as they pull said hero, it is a fairly striking and easy to remember.
Frauds tend to scream stalking when they get exposed. I don’t know if you can relate, but sure, having a functioning memory is stalking if it makes you feel better.
I want to believe you. I truly do. But I can’t. Sorry, I hope you understand. This whole “from utterly broken to joke of a hero because passives and family bonus” story is a bit far-fetched.
And there you go again… Why did I have to mention c Alasie? Sorry everybody, that’s on me. I should’ve seen it coming.
Next step, make a V.Fast hit-all 250% and some other stuff too, maybe cast fiend that slows mana by 30%
Then make a fast summoner that has Mad Hatter minions. Oh… uh… uh, …ok!
instead make a QoH costume that summons cards to all allies. This will be so fun because heroes like Grimble will only kill one ally’s card, with 4 left to go.
Next make a fast hero that does 350% damage to all and some other stuff
Next make a Fast defense hero that has 1300 base def, 6 turns undispellable taunt and cast wonderful feast for 6 turns.
Next nerf that hero. Because metrics. And it’s defensive.
Next make a v.fast hero that does 330% damage all and reduces all enemy mana by 20%
Make sure to feverishly support all of that and never ask them to slow down.
Ffs then eveyone gets mad when nerfs happen… You all ask for em!! These nerf threads are getting ridiculous. I said it before and I’ll say it again I think everybody needs one good "Nerf " then they’ll stop making these threads and be in a better mood
nerf 2? really? have you seen the nerf topics? any hero who shines or is common on defences gets a thread when they don’t need nerfs at all
xnolphod, ludwig, alfrike, goseck, panther c, haluda… and that’s purple only, other colours have similar things
and alot of them settle down after players releasing they aren’t as powerful, move on or something else comes up.
Buff list won’t be much if simple things are applied.
“buff 300” is an exaggeration but can be easily done with simple number adjustments in stats or special skill or even speed. it is not as difficult as it seems and with much better overall impact on the game
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again…
Anyone who thinks players could and would destroy this game…
Well… SG is not that naive?
Seriously, they are fully capable of destroying the game by themselves…
They don’t need players (paying or ftp) to help with it…
Again, you might be blaming the wrong entity…
PS - We all just have an illusion, that our voices, one way or other, are heard by SG…
This forum, once again proves, that its best use is to let players blame each other, while SG rakes in all the money, just like they planned (and without any help from us)